We Still Have a Government, Right?: Canadian Politics 2020

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These seem key:

“They were very, very quick off the mark to take advantage of the publication in China of the genetic composition of the virus and to develop tests locally that could be produced and used locally,” he said...

In Quebec, massive outbreaks in long term care facilities contributed to the province’s high case numbers and death rates, Buckeridge said. Policies like allowing staff to work at multiple facilities just facilitated the virus’ spread in vulnerable populations, he said, and it was allowed for a long time. B.C. issued an order in March to stop this, although it took some time for the practice to end.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 October 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

I don’t really want to call the response any kind of disaster, because I don’t think it is. But I have to admit that the mess with testing and especially the constantly changing recommendations is getting very frustrating. They’ve changed our school attendance criteria enough times now that I’m literally confused as to what we’d need to do in different scenarios. That said, our particular school seems to be managing things very well.

Kim, Sunday, 25 October 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

The second wave following school reopenings is p close to disastrous imo.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

which province? ontario?

flopson, Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

i feel so lucky to be living in BC through all this

flopson, Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

Ontario, yeah.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

I just mean that here, I wouldn’t point at the incompetence or ignorance of many in our leadership who are causing things to actively become worse (unlike some places!) More that general unpreparedness caused a scramble to catch up that is failing some of us in some regards. There are mistakes. I’ve been inside a hospital a few times since spring and it’s very organized and controlled there (could be different elsewhere I guess) If something has to give, I guess parents being annoyed at new shit every week isn’t the end of the world.

Kim, Sunday, 25 October 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

Don’t mean to diminish any deaths. Just strictly talking about the response. I would imagine it’s difficult to fix any of this with so many of those you’re trying to protect actively fighting your measures.

Kim, Sunday, 25 October 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

It seems believable that if we'd done what BC did with testing and LTC workers, we'd have seen fewer deaths. The reopening of schools could have been managed better too, it seems.

This isn't just the response but also it might have helped if the government hadn't been actively taking apart in-home care prior to this, which pushes more people into LTC homes. NB also that the significant majority of LTC home deaths happened in privatized for-profit homes and that privatization has been on the govt's agenda: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/for-profit-nursing-homes-83-percent-of-covid-deaths-eastern-ontario-1.5604880.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 October 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

But I mean, yeah, we're not at a loss for WORSE examples that we could look to for comparison.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 October 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link

Rapid testing does seem to be one thing that might have been making the biggest difference right now. I didn’t quite grok it’s potential value a few months ago, but it now seems obvious that if it were widely available enough, life could be near normal.

Kim, Monday, 26 October 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

I’m three hours from where my mum lives right now, and the fact that she’s essentially trapped indoors, in a basement on her own. Says she feels like she’ll never get outside again. And now that the kids go out, I can’t go there without risking her -but it’s getting to the point where the risk might be worth it? it’s awful!

Kim, Monday, 26 October 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

:(

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Monday, 26 October 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link

:(

enjoying some of the NDP wins in natural liberal territory being partially down to the BC Conservatives and vote-splitting. In Chilliwack NDP won by 8.5% and the Conservatives took 18% of the vote.

here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

lol yeah I saw them interviewing some liberal supporters on the street who presumably didn’t vote, because they were like “oops!”

Halton spared from further restrictions for now.

What the hell @ Ford giving Oosterhoff a total pass on the huge family party though. “He said sorry” oh well then. I really don’t know how he expects anyone else to abide by the guidelines if he can’t even muster a performative scolding for something so flagrant from within his own team.

Kim, Monday, 26 October 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

lol yeah I saw them interviewing some liberal supporters on the street who presumably didn’t vote, because they were like “oops!”

Halton spared from further restrictions for now.

What the hell @ Ford giving Oosterhoff a total pass on the huge family party though. “He said sorry” oh well then. I really don’t know how he expects anyone else to abide by the guidelines if he can’t even muster a performative scolding for something so flagrant from within his own team.

Kim, Monday, 26 October 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

Glad about Halton...I do wonder if Ford buckled to pressure (a lot of letters from Halton mayors). I notice a discernable change in COVID coverage on the radio the past week or so; much more sympathetic to restaurant owners and other small business people. Reconciling that with rising case numbers is going to be extremely messy.

clemenza, Monday, 26 October 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

Wow, with 82% of polls reporting, the Liberal is unsurprisingly winning Toronto Centre but new Green leader Annamie Paul is a strong second!: https://enr.elections.ca/ElectoralDistricts.aspx?ed=2255&lang=e
York Centre is pretty much a Lib/Tory tie with about 75% of polls reporting.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

Sask Party win their fourth straight majority govt in SK, sigh: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/saskatchewan-election-2020-1.5777823

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

I honestly don't know what people love about them.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 04:51 (three years ago) link

Feds putting $1B into Rapid Housing Initiative to build up to 3000 new homes, targeting 15 cities. Plan apparently includes rehabilitating existing buildings (empty motels, rooming houses from what I hear) into new homes: https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2020/10/27/new-rapid-housing-initiative-create-3000-new-homes-canadians

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

American media people talking about this on Twitter, with some saying "ah, but these are mostly highly skilled immigrants, not refugees", with others pointing out the # of refugees is still several times the US's levels.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

Business community gung-ho for this, acc to Star article.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

If any of you have tips, lord, I will gladly move. Take me away.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

currently unclear if we are accepting migrants from failed states

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

I have actively considered applying for PhD programs at Canadian universities, even though whatever degree I'd get would be professionally useless, just to attempt to maybe get a job in Canada after. I'm totally serious.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry to tell you that many Canadians also think you need to attend an American phd program to be worth hiring, assuming you mean an academic job

rob, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

Yep, and I know that, too. There's a part of me that hopes against hope of a trajectory like SFU---> post-grad work ----> UNBC or something. It's all pipe dream bullshit, but I can dream.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

I should say it's not *impossible* -- my supervisor has a Canadian phd, but he did a post-doc in the US, so yeah an exotic enough post-doc could possibly swing it! Aggravatingly, the generation above him often have trajectories like BA->MA->PhD->faculty all at the same institution (which I think is maybe not ideal but is now quite unimaginable anyway)

rob, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

I mean, a PhD from McGill would surely open more doors than a PhD from a mid-ranking SUNY school (quick scan of f/t faculty bios at a top uni confirms this) but tbh there are also not enough academic jobs anywhere to plan around them anyway.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

(My PhD is from a SUNY school ftr.)

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

Oh I know there are no jobs. It's just a fantasy

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

Tbh I would just like to live in a slightly less horrible settler colonial state.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

I've felt pretty sanguine the past couple of weeks, but as an outsider, with a very murky understanding of what Trump can and can't do in the next 48 hours, I'm feeling queasy again.

clemenza, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

Oops.

clemenza, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

Was going to say...perhaps wrong thread.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

#OneThread

The little engine that choogled (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

Apologies for linking to post media, but it’s a weird story

Kim, Monday, 2 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

Wow, did many people see this coming? This article implies it’s all GM reinvesting, but I also read that they expect some tax dollars will be involved. Many people in the ‘shwa must be having a slightly better morning today.

https://www.cp24.com/news/1-3b-deal-will-return-vehicle-production-to-oshawa-plant-gm-and-unifor-say-1.5175832

Kim, Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

meanwhile in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/whole-foods-bans-poppies-1.5791551

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 6 November 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

It's the perfect story for every Canadian politician to act outraged about

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 6 November 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

to make people extra mad they should have made white poppies mandatory instead

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 6 November 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

hahahaha

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 6 November 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

conservative are going to get mad that this is woke culture and forget that the CEO of WF is a union-busting randian from texas who doesn't believe in anthropogenic climate change

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Friday, 6 November 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

and is only doing this because whole foods banned employees from wearing BLM masks in the US

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 6 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

Horgan's so angry, he's *this* close to calling Whole Foods "dude" https://t.co/IpvokfKm7Q

— Justin McElroy (@j_mcelroy) November 6, 2020

scanner darkly, Friday, 6 November 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

I’m also learning that Whole Foods exists in Canada.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 6 November 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link


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