ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

yeah, i did have a bitter lol at the 'lucian' thing

Well well well. I seem to recall this being dismissed as a wicked smear when it was documented in the leaked report. pic.twitter.com/XlDtBTi8AJ

— Howl Upsetting (@HowUpsetting) October 29, 2020

The greatest political assassination of our times and just because we were scared of a little progressive equality

ahh corbyn dicknose in the guardian article :(

I think he's outside (on his home pathway?) there tbfttl

I'd resolved to stay off the internet today (and Twitter in particular) on the basis that it was going to near unbearable, with people seizing on it primarily as a way of either condemning or exonerating Corbyn - and because I haven't read the report properly yet so I don't want to comment on the specifics of it, but some general principles I'd strongly hold to would be:

- That the institution needs to be judged as an institution, not individuals or factions within it, breaking it down to that level is just further evidence of a dysfunctional institution. This should be the case whether it's a political party, a media organisation, an investment bank, a church, a police force, anything.
- That an institution itself is almost uniquely badly placed to determine whether it, the institution, is institutionally racist or otherwise discriminatory.
- That preserving the reputation of the institution or individuals within it is not more important than addressing the problem.
- That the leadership of an institution is fundamentally accountable for whatever goes wrong in this regard on its watch, even if the individual leaders had nothing to do with the actions themselves.
- That all racial or religious or minority groups should be treated equally within that institution, including the way in which allegations of discrimination are treated.
- That institutions should be held to similarly high standards and that society in general should not pick and choose when those standards should be applied according to expediency.

That's it for now.
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(It would be nice if we lived in that world, but transparently we don't)

Matt in calling for a new world (in brackets) shockah!

great post Matt

The Campaign Against Antisemitism has submitted complaints about Corbyn, Abbott, Long-Bailey, Tahir Ali, Mike Amesbury, Apsana Begum, Richard Burgon, Barry Gardiner, Kate Hollern, Afzal Khan, Angela Rayner, Steve Reed, Lloyd Russell-Moyle, Barry Sheerman, Zarah Sultana & others.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) October 29, 2020

ok day off Twitter it is

Whip removed from Corbyn. You might want to take a month off Twitter at least.

Cool

fuck sake

if i didn't know better i'd say that sir kieth has been waiting to use the publication of the report as an excuse to further a campaign against the left of the labour party

Temporarily 'pending investigation' says Lewis Goodall. We'll see.

here we go lads. new party, my desk, tomorrow morning

In before the EHRC:

barely arms length state bodies, government and the courts can't be the arbiters of anti-racism. Such powers, in such a society as this, reproduce or reflect the racial order.

— michael (@Sisyphusa) October 29, 2020

I hope the melt cunt drives his SUV into sinkhole to hell

Pretty bad email from Starmer

We will only consider it a success when those members who left our Party because of antisemitism feel safe to return and when we no longer see the words "Labour" and "antisemitism" in the same sentence.

Good luck with that party u speak of

Corbyn should've been removing the whip from his opponents post-2017 at the least. But anyway..

That legal fund of his probably filling up as we speak (I didn’t donate but tons of people have).

xp accelerationist view validated

you're telling me kieth has buckled at the slightest sign of pressure ? well knock me over with a feather

That is not an accelerationism view lol

This isn't anti-racism.

This is manipulating Jewish pain and fear to fight factional battles.

We deserve so much better than this. https://t.co/SeNS2OcKQS

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) October 29, 2020

xp it is if you view it as part of a wider left split

Working with *checks notes* Ian Austin and Margaret Hodge as part of a wider left

Corbyn's statement

Jeremy Corbyn
2 hrs ·
My statement following the publication of the EHRC report:

“Antisemitism is absolutely abhorrent, wrong and responsible for some of humanity’s greatest crimes. As Leader of the Labour Party I was always determined to eliminate all forms of racism and root out the cancer of antisemitism. I have campaigned in support of Jewish people and communities my entire life and I will continue to do so.

“The EHRC’s report shows that when I became Labour leader in 2015, the Party’s processes for handling complaints were not fit for purpose. Reform was then stalled by an obstructive party bureaucracy. But from 2018, Jennie Formby and a new NEC that supported my leadership made substantial improvements, making it much easier and swifter to remove antisemites. My team acted to speed up, not hinder the process.

“Anyone claiming there is no antisemitism in the Labour Party is wrong. Of course there is, as there is throughout society, and sometimes it is voiced by people who think of themselves as on the left.

“Jewish members of our party and the wider community were right to expect us to deal with it, and I regret that it took longer to deliver that change than it should.

“One antisemite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media. That combination hurt Jewish people and must never be repeated.

“My sincere hope is that relations with Jewish communities can be rebuilt and those fears overcome. While I do not accept all of its findings, I trust its recommendations will be swiftly implemented to help move on from this period.”

Corbyn's statement

Jeremy Corbyn
2 hrs ·
My statement following the publication of the EHRC report:

"Kieth eats big dinners."

there is literally no comment that can be made as to whether this is being used for factional purposes that won't be accused of antisemitism btw

and y'know what, because there's enough chuckleheads to go round *a bunch of them will be*

Hope everyone that first prefed Starmer is feeling proud of being taken for a mug... again.

how many do we think might quit to join Ghost Protocol Victory Alliance then

No reasonable investigation is going to determine that the statement is antisemitic - so either the process is revealed as a stitch-up from the outset or they're going to have to un-suspend him and deal with all this again.

And if they don't un-suspend him, they're going to have to kick out the Jewish Labour members agreeing with him.

This is so horrible for everyone, and it’s gonna do the square root of fuck all to prevent antisemitism, or provide any results for any other victims of other racisms in the UK.

how are you all handling this so calmly

is there gonna be a protest

EHRC report doing its job then XP lol, sure..

the report should be a big positive if dealt with appropriately, once again what this comes down to is Kieth's stupid, unnecessary reaction today. what the fuck is forensic about diving straight in?

how are you all handling this so calmly

is there gonna be a protest

antidepressant posse saddle up

has Corbyn been suspended specifically over his statement?

I reckon Starmer has acted as he has because he’s wary of being exposed to “well you campaigned for him to be PM twice”, which I’ve already seen doing the rounds today.

has Corbyn been suspended specifically over his statement?

ffs

this has ruined the World Cup of Worst Labour MPs, just to make things worse

give kieth a bye to the final

when Jeremy Corbyn eventually dies it’ll be like 3 months until we get “Corbyn’s Ghost Still Haunts Politics: Why The Labour Party Must Crush Powerless People Who Mock Me On Twitter” by Terfina Ghastly-Warrcrimes

— Philosophy Tube (@PhilosophyTube) August 10, 2020