Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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Herb Fame-ga, “Peaches No. 5”

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

I really love your peacheses

Wanna shake your trees

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

Herb even got him a white Peaches. Wonder if we can one day expect a Boy Peaches?

pplains, Friday, 30 October 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

Phil Lynott was married to Leslie Crowther's daughter.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 30 October 2020 09:05 (three years ago) link

think one of my biggest pointless arguments in a relationship was whether it was duct tape/ Duck tape. probably over 20 years ago now. glad to see the controversy still rumbles on.

kinder, Friday, 30 October 2020 09:05 (three years ago) link

well listening to the words pronounced its difficult to hear where the t is located if its the end of one word which cognitively makes some sense even if the physical act is frowened upon by those who would use it, or the beginning of the next word or both. & why would it be duck if you weren't aware of why it would be. So trying to make sense of a phonetic experience you've encountered gives a mistaken impression

Scuse me while I kiss this guy etc etc

Stevolende, Friday, 30 October 2020 09:09 (three years ago) link

Nixon sent troops to Vietnam to distract from the duct/duck tape debate in the States

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

Manhattan had more people living in it in 1910 than today.

https://observer.com/2014/09/manhattan-is-apparently-less-dense-today-than-it-was-in-1910/

nickn, Monday, 2 November 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

It is a Galia melon not a Gala melon. I learned this yesterday, in a shop.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

That when people type "whomp whomp" they're referring to Sad Trombone.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

Had that revelation in-thread a couple of years ago. It's not shocking though!

edited for dog profanity (sic), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

Eyeball Kicks, I only learned that when I worked in the produce section of a grocery store. Probably would still not know about the 'i' if I hadn't.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link

Manhattan had more people living in it in 1910 than today.

https://observer.com/2014/09/manhattan-is-apparently-less-dense-today-than-it-was-in-1910/

― nickn,

Also perhaps surprising to some, Brooklyn has had more people than Manhattan since the 1920s. Queens has had more people than Manhattan since the 1950s.

Josefa, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

"Wichita Lineman" isn't about a football player.

wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

Not a fresh one, but I was pretty old:

"Thou" is the familiar form of the second-person singular personal pronoun and "you" the formal one, so that a master would say "thou" to a servant and a servant "you" to a master, not vice versa. I guess I conflated "thou" being archaic with the distinction also being so, plus that in other languages I know, it is rather the familiar version that supplants the formal one.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

I learned about a year ago that the "ye" in "ye olde ___ shoppe" was originally just a spelling of "the" and was pronounced the same way.

wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link

And the "y" had a dot over it, like a lower case "i" iirc.

nickn, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link

And called "thorn."

nickn, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

I learned about a year ago that the "ye" in "ye olde ___ shoppe" was originally just a spelling of "the" and was pronounced the same way.

O RLY

(See below)

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

They still use it in Icelandic.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

It's true that "ye" as in "ye olde shoppe" was and is an abbreviation for "the" and it was never pronounced "yee."

HOWEVER, the second-person pronoun "ye" as in "ye of little faith" is not an abbreviation for "the." It is correctly pronounced "yee."

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

was originally just a spelling of "the" and was pronounced the same way.

still is!

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

xp

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

By the way, slightly irritating to me that Bjork's surname and certain Icelandic footballers' names are spelled and pronounced wrongly - despite the fact that English is one of the few languages shares has the same th- sound(s) as Icelandic.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

my boss (who’s Irish) says “ye” meaning “you” all the time. i hadn’t heard it until i started working with him.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

really? i see ye instead of you, pretty common in scotland

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link

say even

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link

well I don't really anymore as I live in Canada but among Scottish folk certainly I do

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

I was going to say you've never had a Scottish boss then, Tracer.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

rly! i have scottish friends (mainly glasgow) but never picked up on it from them despite being fascinated by everything else they’d say

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

well I don't really anymore as I live in Canada but among Scottish folk certainly I do

At least you can still say aboot.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

lol

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

the Canadian about thing is a bit of a misnomer. it's nearer to "a boat". it also isn't really particularly present in western canadian accents, seems primarily an Ontario thing

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

actually scratch that, it is present in western Canadian accents just not Vancouver, and is present in Atlantic Canadian accents as well so. but definitely "aboat" not "aboot"

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

The Canadian one I'm obsessed with is 'sorry.'

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 5 November 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

I never knew about the “sore-ee” until I got to know a couple people who grew up (separately) in Victoria. One had a really pronounced “aboot” but the other two didn’t.

joygoat, Thursday, 5 November 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link

Beastcrawl is really Breastcrawl

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 5 November 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/qyqftuc.jpg

That this is a photo of Lauren Bacall and Vice President Truman, taken less than a month after FDR's fourth inauguration.

Man was only VP for only 83 days!

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

Even in not-great pictures, Bacall is a stunner.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 5 November 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

It is interesting that people-who-can't-find-the-ð-and-the-þ-on-their-keyboard roundly spell it Gudmundsdottir instead of Guthmundsdottir

Even google wants to correct me

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

Is there any purpose to a capital eth (Ð) beyond typing Icelandic in all-caps? Can a word/name begin with Ð?

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link

Thor?

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link

No, hold on I'm getting my eths and thorns mixed up.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

Þor. Thorn is a hard "th", eth is a soft "th" and would seem to always follow a vowel-- Höðr, i.e

xp

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

In Icelandic, ð represents a voiced dental fricative [ð], which is the same as the th in English that, but it never appears as the first letter of a word, where þ is used in its stead. The name of the letter is pronounced in isolation (and before words beginning with a voiceless consonant) as [ɛθ̠] and therefore with a voiceless rather than voiced fricative.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

So that's that, then

A completely useless upper-case letter

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link

It is interesting that people-who-can't-find-the-ð-and-the-þ-on-their-keyboard

tbf this was standardised in the 1980s; if the subs and typesetters at music papers started looking for their ð keys and slugs at the time, the issue would be 1,662 weeks late by now and we would all have to be listening to Hipsway and Hue & Cry

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link

Is everyone learning Icelandic all of the sudden?

Meet the Anti-Monks! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 November 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link

a bit of homework:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp0sim1RVfI

kiss some penis reference (breastcrawl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

Hmph.

If 80s kids like me had to correctly style Mötley Crüe, Motörhead, and Hüsker Dü, you pansies can deal with the occasional þ or ð.

We had no computers so we had to get our shit done with typewriters and hot metal and linotrons and photo-offset.

Uphill, both ways, in the snow, beeyotches.

coup de nancy grace (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link


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