ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

Oh, am sure that would have happened. This is going to turn into a months, maybe years thing, though.

between the covers on BBC2. kill* these insufferable 6 music xunts

*shoe

If Labour were exonerated you’d still get a certain kind of centrist crank saying ‘the fact Labour were investigated at all means Jez must go, expel him...’

The Gove letter shows how it would have gone if Corbyn had stayed. It was always going to be made maximum hay of

yeah but as well as dominating the news cycle he has also stoked up the factional war by about a 100 notches and it will only cause him pain, it would have faded faster if he didn't suspend Corbyn - he would have known this was a bad move if the cunt had a clue.

he's fucked it basically, because he is going to look a weak and bungling idiot when Corbyn wins any legal challenge and he can't chuck him out the party. It might temporarily please some of his trash friends at LBC and the Murdoch press who he is constantly playing to, but in a FPTP system, pissing off a few thousand people is enough to potentially lose you a lot of marginal seats. Even some people who hate him as much as I do might have still reluctantly voted for the cunt before this.

he's got his electoral math badly wrong imo and I predict there definitely won't be 10 m turning out to vote for him at the next election. He's already doing his best to alienate something like roughly a million BAME voters and this is just after six fucking months!

his only strategy seems to be keeping schtum, keep the bigots and the right-wing press on side and hopefully after more 4 years of the biggest covid death toll and most knackered and iniquitous economy in Europe he will win by default. Hope he gets splatted by a Uber taxi the useless horrid cunt!

This route is definitely the long one, yeah. And that “if he was so anti Semitic he had to be thrown out why did you support him as leader Eh eh?” isn’t going away

That is a big elephant in the room that will definitely come back for him!

He's not good at thinking ahead, he's too used to being a tyrannical bore type boss - where even if he fucks he's not accountable for his own mistakes. He's definitely not suited for politics

fuck up lol!

The idea that Labour is the only vehicle for structural change for society no matter how shit the leadership is, just doesn't hold water with me. But then again I could imagine an attempt at starting another party would end up a Billy Dumb's Circus lefty version of CuK and they'd attract cranks like Chris Williamson and Rach from Swindon and have their own Nandos moment that could be eternally clowned by the grown up melts!

Young Communist League of Britain

^^^

fuck these ageist bastards!

Lads it's national lockdown time again. (Probably delayed two days against scientific advice to allow the Labour clusterfuck to play out).

We were going into a tier 3 on monday so probably quelle difference here or is it ? i don't know the difference any more!

We could literally wake up to a month of lockdown plus another four years of Trump on Wednesday morning.

At this point I don't even know what's right

The time to act was in fucking February. You could gave indulged all your border-control fantasies legitimately!

Idk. I hate it. Maybe it'll help.

Sky News journalists reporting they were told about the lockdown before the Cabinet was.

sounds perfectly n0rm4al beh@vi0ur for a western democracy to me

I presume the panic buying that briefly resurfaced a month back will be back on, but might be slightly mitigated with Super Rishi's new improved furlough scheme leaving many with less to spend

I confess I have made sure I have toilet roll, pasta and hand soap enough to last a couple of months. I am part of the problem (there is only 1 of me so this is not a huge amount of these things)

Shit, I'm almost out of flour and pasta AND it's Saturday tomorrow so it'll be supermarket hell. Hmm. Anyone for braised rat?

I made hay while the sun shined and by lucky chance got 216 toilet rolls for the price of 108 to bolster to my already impressive military industrial toilet roll complex!

m8 you'll be needing it

imagine all these pub landlords who might have just spent grands updating their kitchens to defy a tier 3 lockdown, lol!

at least they've got that latest Van Morrison album on the jukebox

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Elng66sXEAASO4f?format=jpg&name=small

When it comes to campaign time with him it will be like the Theresa May conundrum again - "where can we hide this arrogant unappealing freak with nay policies, whilst putting out repetitive slogans, because the more visible he is the more we lose!"

They will be struggling to find Labour activists to play crowds of adoring fans like they did with May. Lol she did a press conference at Thornhill Cricket club in a room packed to the rafters with tory activists in 2017. Thing was I've been there before, it's smaller than the average smallish pub. For those that thought all that Ooh Jeremy Corbs football chanting was a bit tiresome, a Starmer campaign will make Broon look like a dynamic populist.

He's not good at thinking ahead, he's too used to being a tyrannical bore type boss - where even if he fucks he's not accountable for his own mistakes. He's definitely not suited for politics

― calzino, Friday, 30 October 2020 21:22 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lol otm. cf his brexit strategy that he's abandoned now it has depleted ratfucking utility. he doesn't realise only tories are the default boss and so only tories can be as inconsistent as they want without anyone giving them too hard a time about it. the next few years will have plenty more opportunities for us to watch him sputtering on c4 news and i doubt any of us will feel any better. what a cunt.

it's a miracle I strung anything otm together last night - I was three sheets to the wind. Scuse the repetitive chainposting. phew! at least no-one got murdered.

In the aftermath of Corbyn's suspension from the Labour party, both the party's and Keir Starmer's net favourability ratings take a hit

Labour party
21-22 Oct: -11
29-30 Oct: -23

Keir Starmer
21-22 Oct: +5
29-30 Oct: -2

entirely predictable.

National lockdown is going to give him an out this week, I think.

Johnson was beginning to get some traction with the Captain Hindsight stuff and now he's announcing a strategy KS called for 18 days ago.

With cases doubling at least twice since then there's a worthwhile line of forensic questioning on if, in hindsight, the PM made the same mistake as he made in mid March and how many people it will kill.

all the briefing has been about 'english' lockdown - what does this mean for scotland?

That -23 might also have something to do with the publication of a report concluding that the party unlawfully discriminated against Jewish people.

More generally, a new national lockdown combined with the end of furlough means that the average voter is not going to be particularly interested or even paying attention to internal disputes within the Labour Party.

I'm not sure about that, despite a new national lockdown UK media looking for anything to report on other than more govt incompetence and spiralling Rona deaths and will be quite happy to keep the internal disputes of the Labour on the front pages!

Since it was completely fucking obvious to anyone who was paying attention - even those of us without direct access to up to the minute data and scientific advice - that we would end up with a national lockdown anyway, the question is why Johnson tried that Captain Hindsight thing anyway.

The only conclusion is they were relying on people having very short memories, or that the government is just fundamentally incapable of thinking more than one or two moves ahead. Even when the moves are, it bears repeating, completely fucking obvious.

Park for a moment the science and the business arguments. The great unacknowledged fact is that forcing a lockdown on the cheap (no furlough, no sick pay) is the riskiest political strategy that could be taken by Johnson. It smashes the coalition that gave him his 2019 landslide

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) October 31, 2020

Good Aditya thread here.

(I mean the other conclusion is that the entire political strategy is based on LOL Nothing Matters and I really wouldn't rule that out).

We may have overplayed that phrase on this thread but it comes from a place of truth

real déjà vu the last weeks hearing about how we’re on a similar trajectory to France, hmmm it’s getting p bad in France, looks like France is heading for lockdown, hey maybe we should do something to get ahead of this... lads? Anything? followed by pre-announcement of an announcement of a lockdown at some point

tbh, I think it’s unlikely they’re going to go into an open-ended lockdown without cobbling together an extension to or replacement for the job retention scheme. They didn’t do it out if the kindness of their hearts the first time around.

If you liked March you’ll love November

what happened to operation moonshat

and rishi where's my fucking 500£ PS5 voucher

They’re still trying for moonspaff from what I read in the graun the other day, linked with these saliva kits. No way theyll be able to handle the logistics tho

Like we’re too dysfunctional to do regular t&t

There will almost certainly be support. Inadequate support, but nevertheless..

What it may not stop is the Xmas spike because er, schools are staying open..