Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

the latest is Kevin Peterson Jr.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/30/kevin-peterson-police-shooting-washington-hazel-dell

1312

16,425

(that's the number of reported cases of murder in the United States in the year 2019. I just like numbers)

wow all those murders with all those cops on the force? kinda seems like theyre not doing a great job of deterring crimes.

without the police, there would have been 2.23 billion murders

whoa that's a lot of murders!

In 2019, there were 697,195 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States.

"Wawaweewah!" - Borat Sagdivey, referring to the very nice number of law enforcement officers employed in the United States relative to the number of actual murders and prospective murders by which people may compare and contrast and draw conclusions! :)

393,347,000 - estimated number of civilian firearms in the United States

2,230,015,245 murders

that's the number of prevented murders + actual murders every year in the united states

3.5 years

that's how long the humanity would survive, if the U.S. police weren't out there preventing billions of murders each year

no one knows about this one because this murder was declared a Perfectly Executed Murder claiming the Self-Defense Exemption by the Police Department. it's cool though, the candle & flower memorial is still a block from my office and I walk past it several times a week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2-bU9NjCvs

but did the cop who shot him mock the memorial on his instagram afterwards? they're still investigating

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2020-09-28/sdpd-investigates-claims-that-officers-social-media-post-made-light-of-memorial-for-man-he-fatally-shot

all cops and non-cop murders are bastard people + all other non-violent bastard people who are still, like, maintaining a social order of murder culture and shit

J.B.A.K.H.T.B.I.O.Y.H. (that means "Joe Biden and Kamala Harris The Blood Is On Your Hands" which I just made up and think sounds p kewl)

are you?

☐ FOR ALL POLICES or
☑ AGIANST ALL POLICES

Rock. The. Vote.™

memorial for a guy for whom we're still trying to determine whether or not it's ok to be mad at the cops who killed him

correct me if that's grammatically incorrect

https://i.imgur.com/EvC7XjP.jpg

do you think this human interest story is?

☐ TRAGICALLY INTERESTING or
☑ TRAGICALLY NOT REALLY THAT INTERESTING BUT THAT PICTURE SURE IS INTERESTING

"There are good cops"

https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article246849952.html

Gov. Andy Beshear and others reacted with outrage Friday after learning Kentucky State Police training materials used quotes from Adolph Hitler and advised trainees to become “the ruthless killer.”

The story was initially reported by two student journalists at duPont Manual High School in Louisville and published online by the school’s newspaper, the Manual RedEye.

The presentation used in the past was immediately denounced by some for emphasizing violence from police rather than minimizing force and reducing conflict.

The slideshow titled “The Warrior Mindset” includes a quote from Hitler’s Mein Kampf: “The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.”

“It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge,” states another quote attributed to Hitler in the PowerPoint presentation, which the student newspaper posted online.

if there were some Good Cops I feel like there have been ample opportunities to flex recently

"if we're such bad cops, then why won't you admit we're not?"

do ACAB people think it is Good or Bad for cops to wear bodycams?

So they can turn them off, find them faulty, or manipulate them to fit a narrative?

is manipulating things to fit a narrative Bad or Good?

burrito what is going on

basically I see them as a distraction, though they could turn out to be worse than that

Research on the impacts that body-worn cameras have on policing is mixed. Some studies have found that cops who wear them are less likely to use force or be the subject of civilian complaints. But a 2017 randomized control trial that included over 2,000 police officers in Washington, DC, found that the effect of body cams was too small to be statistically significant: Officers who wore the cameras used force and received complaints at about the same rate as their colleagues who didn’t. A 2016 analysis of 10 previous studies of body cameras also found that they had “no discernible effect” on the use of force, and actually increased the likelihood of an officer being assaulted.

That’s reflected in the experience of some law enforcement officials themselves. “You forget about the body camera pretty quickly,” says Betsy Smith, a retired police sergeant with almost 30 years of experience. “It doesn’t change our behavior, because most cops are just going out there and doing their job. If people think, Let’s get these cops body cameras to change their behavior, I think that’s really naive, and frankly it’s kind of insulting to law enforcement.” But Smith isn’t opposed to body cameras. She says she’s in favor of equipping every police officer in the country with one, but not necessarily because filming cops keeps them accountable.

By design, body-worn cameras point outwards into the world, often aiding police officers in monitoring communities, rather than helping communities watch police. And surveillance technology is only growing more sophisticated: At least one body cam manufacturer has pitched adding live facial recognition as a feature to police departments, OneZero reported earlier this year.

https://www.wired.com/story/body-cameras-stopped-police-brutality-george-floyd/

there are good reasons they fell out of favor as a demand quite a while ago

burrito what is going on

nothing much, just chattin about police, trying to figure out whether or not they're all bad or all good

with maaaybe a little performative virtual signaling thrown in to keep things spicy

that's virtual signaling, not virtue signaling btw - I mean literally demonstrating an awareness of the message board environment

cops teargas marchers, kids in garner, north carolina

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article246861942.html

In 2012, the U.S. Department of Justice laid out nine ways in which Alamance County Sheriff Terry Johnson and his deputies violated people’s constitutional rights in the county, through “a pattern or practice of discriminatory policing.”

The DOJ, under the Obama administration, filed a lawsuit over the accusations, but a Republican-appointed federal judge threw out the suit. The DOJ appealed, then agreed to drop its legal threats in exchange for Johnson agreeing to actions including “bias-free policing” training for his deputies.

Johnson since been re-elected sheriff twice, in 2014 and 2018. Both times, no one ran against him.

that's virtual signaling, not virtue signaling btw - I mean literally demonstrating an awareness of the message board environment

like anyone who would safety pin an ACAB patch onto the punk jacket of dialogue, table is smart enough to know that all cops aren't actually worthless pieces of shit, just like anyone with a gun in their hand doesn't automatically turn into a killer. it's just a kewl thing to say to provoke a reaction and trick the blue lives matter crowd into engaging with it. I get that! and I'm a dope for letting it irritate me.

but I also shared some details on a police shooting in my neighborhood from a few months ago because I was kinda interested in getting an ACAB person's take on it. like, what exactly did the cops do wrong here in this particular instance? what could/should they have done differently? I guess I'm just hoping for some sort of an acknowledgement that no, not all cops are Derek Chauvin and yes, every fatal shooting unfolds under unique circumstances and it all needs to be taken into consideration if you want to actually understand the ways policing can be improved. I don't actually think that acknowledgement will substantially change anything, but if you honestly think all cops are inherently irredeemable, do you also think systematic improvement is an impossibility?

burrito lives matter

shit, I just realized I used the phrase "not all cops." I'm gonna get an earful now

I am the son
And the heir
Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I am the son and heir
Of nothing in particular
You shut your mouth
How can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am A BURRITO and I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

Are we done pretending this dude is worth talking to yet

God, please forgive Dan his rudeness.

Good news, Dan! God said he'd forgive you :)

dude, what

huh?

For years I have auto-SB'd anyone who uses the phrase "virtue signaling" & encourage others to do the same

what about "virtual signaling"

btw it's FP not SB, Dan S

oh, shit, sorry, you're Dan I. my bad

I and I try to understand the difference between Dan S and Dan I & I encourage others to do the same, Jah bless

Hey, Burrito, as someone who has needed to hear this in the past on various fora, can I say you’re posting like someone who needs a break from posting for a bit.

It’s a stressful time and I hope you’re ok, but maybe you oughtta just cool it.

I appreciate that but I've checked myself and am in no danger of wrecking myself. If you need to vent about your PTSD from unpleasant message board experiences past, go ahead and send me a webmail - mine works.

just one. maybe one? will step up and say “yeah shit that’s kinda fucked up”?

literally one. a single cop. then I’ll shut up. seriously. I’ll log off the internet for life.