It's true that "ye" as in "ye olde shoppe" was and is an abbreviation for "the" and it was never pronounced "yee."
HOWEVER, the second-person pronoun "ye" as in "ye of little faith" is not an abbreviation for "the." It is correctly pronounced "yee."
― didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link
was originally just a spelling of "the" and was pronounced the same way.
still is!
― @RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link
xp
By the way, slightly irritating to me that Bjork's surname and certain Icelandic footballers' names are spelled and pronounced wrongly - despite the fact that English is one of the few languages shares has the same th- sound(s) as Icelandic.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link
my boss (who’s Irish) says “ye” meaning “you” all the time. i hadn’t heard it until i started working with him.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
really? i see ye instead of you, pretty common in scotland
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link
say even
well I don't really anymore as I live in Canada but among Scottish folk certainly I do
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
I was going to say you've never had a Scottish boss then, Tracer.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
rly! i have scottish friends (mainly glasgow) but never picked up on it from them despite being fascinated by everything else they’d say
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
At least you can still say aboot.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
lol
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link
the Canadian about thing is a bit of a misnomer. it's nearer to "a boat". it also isn't really particularly present in western canadian accents, seems primarily an Ontario thing
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
actually scratch that, it is present in western Canadian accents just not Vancouver, and is present in Atlantic Canadian accents as well so. but definitely "aboat" not "aboot"
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
The Canadian one I'm obsessed with is 'sorry.'
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 5 November 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
I never knew about the “sore-ee” until I got to know a couple people who grew up (separately) in Victoria. One had a really pronounced “aboot” but the other two didn’t.
― joygoat, Thursday, 5 November 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link
Beastcrawl is really Breastcrawl
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 5 November 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/qyqftuc.jpg
That this is a photo of Lauren Bacall and Vice President Truman, taken less than a month after FDR's fourth inauguration.
Man was only VP for only 83 days!
― pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
Even in not-great pictures, Bacall is a stunner.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 5 November 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link
It is interesting that people-who-can't-find-the-ð-and-the-þ-on-their-keyboard roundly spell it Gudmundsdottir instead of Guthmundsdottir
Even google wants to correct me
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
Is there any purpose to a capital eth (Ð) beyond typing Icelandic in all-caps? Can a word/name begin with Ð?
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link
Thor?
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link
No, hold on I'm getting my eths and thorns mixed up.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
Þor. Thorn is a hard "th", eth is a soft "th" and would seem to always follow a vowel-- Höðr, i.e
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link
In Icelandic, ð represents a voiced dental fricative [ð], which is the same as the th in English that, but it never appears as the first letter of a word, where þ is used in its stead. The name of the letter is pronounced in isolation (and before words beginning with a voiceless consonant) as [ɛθ̠] and therefore with a voiceless rather than voiced fricative.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link
So that's that, then
A completely useless upper-case letter
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link
It is interesting that people-who-can't-find-the-ð-and-the-þ-on-their-keyboard
tbf this was standardised in the 1980s; if the subs and typesetters at music papers started looking for their ð keys and slugs at the time, the issue would be 1,662 weeks late by now and we would all have to be listening to Hipsway and Hue & Cry
― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link
Is everyone learning Icelandic all of the sudden?
― Meet the Anti-Monks! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 November 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link
a bit of homework:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp0sim1RVfI
― kiss some penis reference (breastcrawl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link
Hmph.
If 80s kids like me had to correctly style Mötley Crüe, Motörhead, and Hüsker Dü, you pansies can deal with the occasional þ or ð.
We had no computers so we had to get our shit done with typewriters and hot metal and linotrons and photo-offset.
Uphill, both ways, in the snow, beeyotches.
― coup de nancy grace (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
TIL = Today I Learned
― Meet the Anti-Monks! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
Excellent meta-TILing
― Alba, Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
Swag stands for “stuff we all get” – thanks NYT crossword
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 November 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link
Wait! I misread the clue, that’s not true. NEVER MIND ITS BEEN A WEEK
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 November 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link
^classic example of a backronym
― unregistered, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link
it took an emoji-filled tweet to tip me off that Herbert Hoover's VP had Native American ancestry:
History of US Vice Presidents:👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏼👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻👩🏾— Sarah DEMOCRACY IS BACK Parcak (@indyfromspace) November 7, 2020
Born on January 25, 1860, in Topeka, Kansas Territory, before its admission as a state in January 1861, Charles Curtis had roughly 3/8 Native American ancestry and 5/8 European American. His mother, Ellen Papin (also spelled Pappan), was Kaw, Osage, Potawatomi, and French. His father, Orren Curtis, was of English, Scots, and Welsh ancestry. On his mother's side, Curtis was a descendant of chief White Plume of the Kaw Nation and chief Pawhuska of the Osage.
― unregistered, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
people keep failing to mention that she is also the first not-bald VP
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
it's a red letter day for the haired
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
Saw a similar meme that had a fly on Pence
― mouts and shurmurs (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
Curtis was no friend to his own people, unfortunately.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link
tbf he wasn't 100% to blame for the legislation that bears his name (source: I just learned about it on Wikipedia):
While serving as a Representative, Curtis sponsored and helped pass the Curtis Act of 1898; it extended the Dawes Act to the Five Civilized Tribes of Indian Territory. As such, it ended their self-government and provided for allotment of communal land to individual households of tribal members, after they were registered on official rolls. It limited their tribal courts and government. Any lands not allotted were to be considered surplus by the federal government, which sold plots to non-Natives. Implementation of this act completed the extinguishing of tribal land titles in Indian TerritoryIn the usual fashion, by the time the bill HR 8581 had gone through five revisions in committees in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, there was little left of Curtis' original draft. In his hand-written autobiography, Curtis noted having been unhappy with the final version of the Curtis Act. He believed that the Five Civilized Tribes needed to make changes. He thought that the way ahead for Native Americans was through education and use of both their and the majority cultures, but he also had hoped to give more support to Native American transitions.
In the usual fashion, by the time the bill HR 8581 had gone through five revisions in committees in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, there was little left of Curtis' original draft. In his hand-written autobiography, Curtis noted having been unhappy with the final version of the Curtis Act. He believed that the Five Civilized Tribes needed to make changes. He thought that the way ahead for Native Americans was through education and use of both their and the majority cultures, but he also had hoped to give more support to Native American transitions.
(also tbf his response has a whiff of, "I wanted it to be slightly oppressive, but that's a bit much, chaps")
― unregistered, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link
alternatively it means "shitty wild ass guess"
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link
Scooby wiggles ass grotesquely
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link
The stupidest bacronym I ever heard was during a boat trip on the Thames when the tour guide proudly announced to his audience of mainly Chinese tourists that "wharf" stood for "warehouse at river front".
― mahb, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link
I've been calling the Buddhist zen slap stick the wrong thing for years, thought it wasa ku stick turns out its Keisaku or kyosaku.Loved the idea of the one revalatory moment where you are woken up from not connecting 2 ideas by having a quick slap from the master's meditation aid.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisaku
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link
I’ve always heard it as “scientific wild ass guess” because that’s funnier.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
tony from "west side story" and ben horne from "twin peaks" are the same guy!
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link
wait till you find out about Riff
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link
omg
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link
Easy, Action!
― An Andalusian Do-rag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link