Yeah not the individual bubbles, I’m referring to the larger tents where all the patrons are together
― calstars, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
Yeah I’ve only seen a couple of those individual table bubbles, it’s far more likely to be the only large, enclosed tent which appears to do fuck all.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link
moderna's results coming in the next few days apparently:
https://www.ft.com/content/c6c6b704-964a-4df6-8330-8e3290ea65fa
Dr Fauci told the FT Live Global Pharmaceutical Summit on Wednesday that he was optimistic about a forthcoming update on the vaccine from biotech group Moderna and would “be surprised if we didn’t see a similar degree of efficacy” to the positive results released by Pfizer and BioNTech on Monday. “We were told that literally in the next few days to a week they’ll be doing the same thing of looking at the data as the Pfizer people did a week ago,” he told the Financial Times event.
“We were told that literally in the next few days to a week they’ll be doing the same thing of looking at the data as the Pfizer people did a week ago,” he told the Financial Times event.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:19 (three years ago) link
(this one can be stored/shipped at regular domestic freezer temperature IIUC)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link
oh that's good, I was just listening to a podcast about the cooling requirements of the Pfizer one -- crazy
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link
seems about right - I'm not sure when the earliest of Moderna's phase 3 groups started, but my group has already had both injections, and then we had 8 vials of blood taken to measure our antibody response about a month ago.
hoping we have two viable vaccines.
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:26 (three years ago) link
Passenger tests positive for Covid-19 on first cruise ship to sail in Caribbean since the beginning of the pandemic https://t.co/RWQh3yeKVh— Dr. Seema Yasmin (@DoctorYasmin) November 12, 2020
Cannot fathom going on a cruise right now.
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link
i'm sure that was a fun trip
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:47 (three years ago) link
cruise ships are booking passengers again?! this world is crazier than I can grasp.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link
cruise ships booking passengers again, porn studios doing a2m again, just adding petri dish after petri dish
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 05:51 (three years ago) link
tbf cruise ships seem especially dangerous right now not just because they're cruise ships, but because the only people who would go on one are extremely reckless and more likely than the average person to already be infected when they step on the boat!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 November 2020 07:03 (three years ago) link
Also old
― The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Thursday, 12 November 2020 07:05 (three years ago) link
and they're all fucking
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link
Missed my call from the vaccine testing people, I was on another call. Called them back but no answer. Hopefully they call back tomorrow.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 12 November 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link
We went camping near Weymouth on the coast over the summer, and sitting idly in the sea nearby were ten or so empty cruise ships, with lights on and belching smoke. It was quite the metaphor.
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Thursday, 12 November 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link
Who the fuck would get on a cruise ship now? Jesus.
Ever since I was around 10, I've always had the romantic idea of a boat trip over to Europe but, at the same time, you could not pay me to ever get onboard a cruise ship. Did the cruise industry completely ruin the idea of boats as intercontinental travel without the part of them being the destination themselves?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
I'm at the point where I wouldn't blink at a story of COVID deniers asking random strangers to spit directly into their open mouths.
― Some dads are not YOUR dad (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link
before covid i was already resolved not to get on one. aside from not being something i would like, they had that poop ship and the legionnaire's outbreaks, etc.
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
asking random strangers to spit directly into their open mouths
Merely a matter of time. My covidiot FIL has been known to demand that passersby take off their face masks and stop observing the 2m rule.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
Welp pic.twitter.com/plg4gPEuif— Peter🌲Brannen (@PeterBrannen1) November 11, 2020
I saw that map a few times last night when I was half asleep and assumed it was fake but, nope. Jesus.
Although I will point out that, as of this morning, the map on their website is slightly different in that Louisiana is shown as the lighter red "trending poorly".
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
this surprised me to see all the states like that. these are the criteria:
14 Day Trend of COVID+This is the last 14 days of COVID positive cases using a 7 day rolling average. This data is updated daily and comes from the COVID Tracking Project.
Dark red: If cases are increasing (>25% change) during the 14 day periodRed: If cases are increasing (between 5% - 25% change) during the 14 day periodYellow: If cases are flat (less than 5% change) during the 14 day periodGreen: If cases are decreasing (more than -5% change) during the 14 day period
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
Interesting
I continue to think the evidence for the Sturgis Motorcycle rally being one of the most disastrous public health events in decades is provisional but quite strong. https://t.co/GYfGE590h9— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) November 11, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
For real, when we start (in my wildest dreams) locking up leaders and charging them with murder, Noem is in my top five.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
Some anecdotal data: The husband of one of my wife's best friends met up with some friends this past Saturday for a "social distanced" afternoon backyard hang, it was much colder than normal/expected so they moved inside and he overstayed a few hours past when he planned on being home.. Everyone who attended now has tested positive for COVID.
I don't know the other people involved, but the husband is pretty sharp, well-educated, seemingly healthy habits, has a pretty cool job... now is isolating in a hotel for 2 weeks and the wife is absolutely livid.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
Oops!
― The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
Admittedly that's one of the problems with "safe" social gatherings. We reluctantly had my aunt and uncle up from the city a few months ago. First, we had asked them to come when the weather was going to clear up and we could be outside, but they came early so we had to be inside. Then, in spite of promising to wear masks, they took their masks off. Then they stopped observing distancing. It's very hard to force your relatives, especially older ones, to behave a certain way in your home. I have decided not to see them again until this is over.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
fucking idiots. i understand, have had the same problems with my parents having their friends over unmasked and me screaming at them
― Nhex, Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
I am dreading the blowback I'm gonna get tonight or tomorrow for when I finally get the nerve up to tell my mom we aren't coming.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
have a feeling you need to set some stronger boundaries lol
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
sorry, that was out of place. good luck
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
Eh, she hasn't even invited anyone yet, but I'm anticipating that she might want to so I'm trying to head it off and be proactive. They've been really good and understanding so far, but she's always considered hosting Thanksgiving to be one of her favorite things and I'm worried she's going to really struggle with the loss even if she ultimately understands.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
The other day I watched a Zoom funeral for someone I knew who died of COVID -- he was pretty old and unwell and already probably in his final hospital visit when he caught it, but all the same it was kind of startling that someone spoke at the funeral without a mask on -- like, everybody else was masked and this one person was like "THIS is the right moment to show I don't think it's that big of a deal and people are overreacting"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
Went to my sister's house for a distanced outside fire-pit chat a few weeks ago. These are the only people I've IRL socialized with since March.
It started drizzling, and my kids went inside the house for a bit to get out of the rain while we wrapped up the socializing.
Two days later my daughter started feeling sick. You can, I suspect, imagine the terror.
She tested positive - for strep throat.
I've never been so relieved to get a positive result on a test for an infectious disease. But no, even the ostensibly safe hangs are off the menu again. And the good weather for outdoor meetups is likely gone.
― coupvfefe (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
to be fair to that map, i've felt like Florida has been in uncontrolled spread since June or July
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
we are assholes.
So more mealy-mouthed bullshit from Lightfoot, I guess? A 30-day stay at home "advisory", whatever that means. I just don't see how making it an "advisory" has any teeth at all.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
I mean, I don't mean to harsh on Lori, she's done a pretty decent job all things considered. But "advisory" feels like it makes it all sound much more optional than it should be, given our numbers.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
Forgot to mention that this EXACT thing happened to us after my aunt and uncle's visit -- we also got her a COVID test (negative)
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
The only people we see indoors are my wife's parents, and I was actually hesitant about that (more for their own sake) but we are both careful and they insist on it.
I've had one friend over for patio beers a few times and we've had a couple outdoor playdates - our little kids can't really be kept at distance but we do so as parents.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
Question: It seems like testing is readily available in NYC now--is it also in other places? Liiike, re Thanksgiving, are there...reasons not to get everyone tested and then isolate for a couple of days until you get results and then get together? We are considering this for my roommate/house-mates, who are semi- all podded together anyway. The testing is just out of extra caution.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link
that is our plan for seeing my wife's kids/grandkids for Thanksgiving, who are in our bubble anyway as we have seen them several times since March
I can't see any reason not to get test results before we head down there
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link
my anecdotal COVID story:
president of my company has a pregnant wife & kid, she has a "mom pod" and they share a nanny. The nanny went to a "family gathering" maybe 2 weeks ago where there was a super spreader event, then gave it to boss' wife's friend, then boss' wife hugged her friend goodbye, now they both have it. total failures of basic precautions all around. thankfully neither of them seem super sick yet.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
Idk, why risk it? There will be thanksgiving again next year.
― The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
yeah I bet we end up not going, given the progression we see
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link
Testing without symptoms varies out here, also depends on which service you'd like to use:
1) my PPO health insurance provider: incredibly strict (2-3 more symptoms present)2) the County: more strict (1 or more symptoms)3) tech-driven testing (eg Project Baseline® by Google™): less strict (no symptoms), but then they want to connect your google account(s) & mobile # with your virus samples/biometrics... maybe even your DNA? haven't really researched this option tbqh lol
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link
xps: to In Orbit^^^
Personally I can do without Thanksgiving & Christmas stuff
It helps that I don't really like very many people
― coupvfefe (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
xp to Albert
Well that makes more sense, that's like where NYC was in June/July. Now there's free walk-in testing in every neighborhood and you can request the rapid test or the PCR, which takes about 2 days to get back.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
My wife and I see no one indoors. Our social visits (mainly with our daughter) are outdoors, masked, and abbreviated. We continue to limit our time in public indoor spaces to the minimum necessary visits to buy groceries - about 3 trips per month. Our non-grocery shopping is close to zero. Since mid-March I did have one blood draw done to renew a prescription, and we've each had one dental exam.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link
I did get one in-person haircut. Only one in the shop and the barber wore his mask properly. I still may do the next one myself.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link