Opal - Early Recordings/Happy Nightmare Baby

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exactly. Pat clarified on twitter that the rights are owned 50/50 but Roback's demands were unacceptable. Hard to understand what kind of demands you can have when it's understood that you only own 50%. Frankly owning 50% of your rights for this stuff is pretty good.

akm, Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

Is the thinking sells on Discogs for $75, therefore the demand must be huge!?

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

god who knows. it's probably more along the lines of 'fade into you has made oodles of money and so there must be huge demand for his back catalogue' but I don't think reissues of Emergency Third Rail Power Trip sold out instantly and made trillions of dollars.

akm, Friday, 13 November 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link

which songs on Early Recordings II are actually Opal songs? I assume the ones where Kendra is singing, but other than that...

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

seeing as some CDs were supposedly sold have the extra tracks surfaced anywhere yet? really want to hear the properly mastered Sailing Boats

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

belated thanks to f hazel, just my webmail for the first time in months!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

enjoy!

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

A 1988 show after Hope replaced Kendra. Audience recording but good once they get going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIWhLwJ-kyY

nickn, Saturday, 30 October 2021 07:05 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

I ponied up for a copy of the deleted Early Recordings remaster (making it the only album I have overpaid for twice, both times deleted) and in addition to the fascination of the extra tracks, I gotta say the remaster is excellent. The music is so much more present and alive, whereas the original feels distant and slightly muffled.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link

Live show above is lovely. The compression of the recording plus the LOUDLY mixed guitar is wonderful. Cheers for the link.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:12 (two years ago) link

The remaster is great — lol, it really is so stupid that it's not available.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link

really sad the Happy Nightmare Baby reissue never made it out either, the original CD master of that one isn't bad but it isn't great either

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

There's a seller (Global-Deals for You) on eBay offering multiple sets of Early Recordings and Happy Nightmare Baby on CD - 30 sold, 8 remaining - which I think is a liquidator. Wondering if it might be the unsold stock of the reissues. I have the Early Recordings reissue and the original HNB CD, so it would be pretty expensive for me to buy a set out of curiosity, but I'm putting it here in case there are folks without either CD who'd like to give it a shot. Their feedback includes positive responses from folks who bought the set, by the way.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185279370201

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 29 September 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

interesting! trying to justify buying it as I have both the original releases, I really want a hard copy of the extra Early tracks tho ...

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

Remaster is excellent too, if that’s a factor for you.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 29 September 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

arrived today, and as suspected they are the Salley Garden reissues that were pulled. v happy!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

does the Happy Nightmare Baby CD have anything extra? is it remastered? the SST CD version doesn't sound bad but it doesn't sound amazing either...

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

nothing extra, I have the OG vinyl so can't compare.
could rip & send if anyone's interested?

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

I would be interested to hear, yes please!

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

haha, I bought a set off the eBay auction so I can report back when I get mine re: old vs new HNB CD

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

(and can also rip for ILXors)

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

ok ripped, anyone interested webmail me 4 link

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

or just post here and I'll web you, that's probably easier tbh

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

That is AWESOME. I’m glad a few made it out after all.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

thanks zappi!

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

Would love it, thanks Zappi!

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

Would love it, thanks Zappi!

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

Would greatly appreciate said link; thank you, Zappi!

SemStark, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

I only have the LP to compare, on first listen this does sound a bit fuller/more detail/remastered, not really louder/compressed which is nice

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

I’d love to hear a lossless of HNB if such a thing were available …

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

yes thanks zappi for sending FLAC files, much appreciated

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

FLAC files? Wouldn't mind giving an ear, with thanks in advance. Lucky enough to have the original CD issues of both but it would be nice to get a sense of what's changed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

(And much thanks again!)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

thank you!!

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

Thanks again, Zappi!

Did a bit of comparing the original HNB CD and FLAC of the new one in Audition. If I were to guess, the new one is the same as the old one, with ~ +5dB gain applied. Once I matched volumes, there was no difference when A/B-ing. There's also no difference in frequency spectrum — if the new one was digitized anew from original tapes, there most likely would've been. On the plus sized, at least it's not crushed into oblivion, it's just been amped up without any limiting or compressing. So, if you have the old CD, you're not missing anything revelatory that you couldn't get with a volume dial.

Someone mentioned that they heard the remastered Early Recordings, and that *that* one sounded different. Anyone?

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Sounds significantly better to me, much fuller than the Rough Trade CD, at least.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

and I agree that HNB is likely just a level boost of the same master

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

or just post here and I'll web you, that's probably easier tbh

Would love to hear this Zappi

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 06:46 (one year ago) link

hi zappi, have just sent you a mail :)

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 07:15 (one year ago) link

thank u zappi, my hero!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 07:20 (one year ago) link

Thanks Zappi!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

Are you on FB or Discord? Reddit? I want a copy (HNB was one of my favorites as a teen; it was burnt up in the fire) but I'm not sure if I have access to my ILXmail. (Chris Irregardless on FB, GreenLeafy11 on Discord and Reddit.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 11:22 (one year ago) link

sent via reddit! I think I've caught up with everyone else, let me know if you can't find it etc.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Lost opportunity with the lack of a remaster on Happy Nightmare Baby, it sounds like ass.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

I got it, thank you.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

like a fool I bought a set, I think I have bought Early Recordings four times now (and always for stupid prices). I'm glad to have both the Salley Gardens releases tho.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 20 October 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

My copies from this eBay overstock place arrived, I wanted the Happy Nightmare Baby reissue to go along with the Early Recordings one I was lucky enough to get from Amazon before sales were halted. So I've got a spare copy of Early Recordings... anyone want it (for what I paid for it, an admittedly steep $36)?

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I'm a little late in asking, but can anyone share FLAC files for the Opal 'Early Recordings' remaster on Salley Gardens? Seems to be out of reach now.

makvirag, Sunday, 1 January 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

yeah I got u

does your ilxmail work?

sleeve, Sunday, 1 January 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

Thanks, sleeve! I am new to this forum and don't have an ilxmail account. Is there another way?

makvirag, Sunday, 1 January 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link


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