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Best answer to Kieth question

"I think you'd understand it if Labour were 20 points ahead."

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link

It's funny that the professional Payne person has just seen a 'Keith' meme for the first time -- but then TBH, as Ride once sang, I don't know where it comes from either.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

It always reminds me of "Hey Keith!" at the start of The Damned's cover of I Feel Alright.

Also (former?) ilxor Keith, who is a much better Keith.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

lol, they have Steve Reed, of all people, doing the rounds to criticise the NEC decision.

This Steve Reed? pic.twitter.com/Z2Hzx7tfNF

— Liam Gallagher (@liamtgallagher) November 18, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

Just woke up, have I missed anything funny?

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link

Kieth has now declared himself a friend of all terrorists and is getting some RA tats

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

Excellent, up the ra

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

Next Islington North by-election to be completed by Labour, New Labour, Real Labour, Provisional Labour and Continuity Labour.

And won by Tories.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

🤔🤔🤔

Powered by the wind turbines of Scotland and the North East, propelled by electric cars made in the Midlands and advanced by tech developed in Wales, my 10 point plan will drive forward a Green Industrial Revolution, creating jobs across the country. https://t.co/98ZbUFZzrT pic.twitter.com/CwXmaxM1R3

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) November 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

Nothing about Heathrow I notice

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

i feel bad when actual human beings lose their job but at the same time it's kinda nice watching airlines go to the wall

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

That Liam Gallagher?

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

Offshore wind: Producing enough offshore wind to power every home, quadrupling how much we produce to 40GW by 2030

There is already the capacity to power every home from Scotland's wind. Every Scottish home, that is.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

the tories have such a good record with not frittering away Scottish resources on consumer bubbles. I honestly can't why'd there would be any cynicism towards a lot of wind!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

Someone asked me to sign a petition to get JC restored to the Labour whip.

Is this a good thing?

My instinct is that JC is better off without these wankers and KS should deal with the problems of his own making.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

There is already the capacity to power every home from Scotland's wind. Every Scottish home, that is.

Curious that they're expecting the country they claim is so economically weak and lacking in resources and resourcefulness it couldn't survive without handouts from Westminster, and they don't think is deserving of even the skimpiest self-governance, to light their fucking houses for them.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

The figures for 2019 were 90.1% of energy in Scotland came from renewables compared to 37.9% for the UK as a whole (inc. Scotland).

Gerneten-flĂźken cake (jed_), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

I've read the full 46 page report from the National Audit Office on PPE procurement and it's a doozy.

This government has awarded over 1300 PPE contracts without any competition, for a total of ÂŁ10 billion.

This is corruption to the core. pic.twitter.com/8A9gqXArIX

— Dr Meenal Viz (@meenalsworld) November 18, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

electricity, not energy xp

Gerneten-flĂźken cake (jed_), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

Someone asked me to sign a petition to get JC restored to the Labour whip.

Is this a good thing?

My instinct is that JC is better off without these wankers and KS should deal with the problems of his own making.


i think everyone (all sides, and obv the hacks) would be a lot better off if they stopped making corbyn the centre of everything they write and think.

by “lot better off” i mean in terms of idk... political probity? (which is absurd but hopefully ykwim). clearly a thing you can keep hitting to generate coins is going to be v difficult to wean people off (people here = hacks, tories, labour right).

But for the Labour left it’s all up side.

There probably is some EHRC due process to be gone through with some of the things that happened under his watch, and detaching the future of socialism in Labour from corbyn would be sensible as wd embracing the EHRC report imo.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

🐦[I’ve read the full 46 page report from the National Audit Office on PPE procurement and it’s a doozy.

This government has awarded over 1300 PPE contracts without any competition, for a total of ÂŁ10 billion.

This is corruption to the core. pic.twitter.com/8A9gqXArIX🕸
— Dr Meenal Viz (@meenalsworld) November 18, 2020🕸]🐦


i mean to this point, as twitter has pointed out, hacks dementedly still going on about an *ex* leader of the *opposition* while serious and blatant corruption (fast tracking politically connecting ppe bids) by the government is happening ripe for a proper exposĂŠ and a press to do its fuckin job to chase and snap and not let go...

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

i love how the NAO are just like 'we have literally done the work for you'

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

helen lewis is just fucking awful. i realise this doesn’t contribute much bu

i love how the NAO are just like 'we have literally done the work for you'


right?!

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

it makes me really wish in understood how newsrooms editorial boards etc worked. like how has consent manufactured itself so homogenously that the obvious main story is just flapping about in the wind, unloved?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

All journalists get pavlovian boners on hearing the words "Jermy Crobyn"

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

All this the week the Labour Islamophobia report has also been published eh.

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

The problem with the "let's move this away from Corbyn" stance is what makes you think they'll stop at Corbyn? "Let's move this away from Labour" might be a more sustainable position.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link

That’s correct. This has never been about Corbyn or his mistakes. Thirteen socialist MPs (or twelve and Rayner) are currently under investigation following complaints from the CST. We can expect these tactics to be used indefinitely, as they are now, to target the rest of the SCG, socialists on the NEC, prospective councillors and MPs, etc, etc,

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:35 (three years ago) link

Jenrick is currently highlighting that four of Starmer’s current shadow communities team alone have had complaints raised against them by the Campaign Against Antisemitism - and why not? Why would he stop?

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

The defence of the realm is the first duty of government.

We are investing an extra £16.5 billion in defence to end the era of retreat, strengthen our Armed Forces, and extend British influence as a force for good in the world 🇬🇧 https://t.co/SWRzM8Pdhu pic.twitter.com/j9EARz2DV9

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) November 19, 2020

the magic money tree is blooming

not sure what the "era of retreat" is, don't remember us being in any wars where we weren't the aggressor lately

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link

next time China dismissively treats the UK like an insignificant little gadfly they can threaten to invade them lol!

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

jeez ...imagine the widespread media indignation if Corbyn had been systematically purging all his factional rivals.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:02 (three years ago) link

Era of retreat? They surely can't mean all the swingeing cuts on the Armed Forces carried out by Tory governments most of the current cabinet served in.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link

maybe they should be thinking about some PIP reforms so some of these soldiers that come back with PTSD (no doubt from the trauma of retreating!) and get ejected onto the streets by an austerity welfare state get some help maybe? Without getting all Help Our Heroes about it, going into the army seems to be a good way of ultimately getting into the homeless street begging sector.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

The soft left.

Politicised Labour process let Corbyn back in, says Anneliese Dodds https://t.co/k2z5K9AdAe

— Guardian politics (@GdnPolitics) November 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

what an absolute Dudd, it will also be part of a politicised Labour when Kieth gets rid of her because she's so crap!

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

process

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

I mean fancy that, even the leaders DID selections were part of a politicised process.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

Brexit catching Covid is exactly what today needed

stet, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

There's nothing the PLP could do to more effectively torpedo faith in the independence of a new review board than advertising the conclusions it will be required to make in advance.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

Back to Jeff and the boys in the Political Football studio for updates on the Starmer-Corbyn derby, where it sounds like Margaret Hodge has taken the game by the scruff of the neck... pic.twitter.com/IQs60ArmD8

— TheIainDuncanSmiths (@TheIDSmiths) November 18, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

beat me to it

nashwan, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

cheap lousy maggot

"Why have a minister for women, but not for men?"

Speaking in the International Men's Day debate, Conservative Ben Bradley says "can we ensure equality means just that, rather than positive discrimination at the expense of certain groups"

Watch: https://t.co/fci0RxYjAp pic.twitter.com/79MkEWm9wi

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) November 19, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

why don't we ever have a white history week asks Ben Bradley

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

the right honourable member for Mansfailed

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Why isn't there a member from Womansfield

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

She-ffield has several members!

imago, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

just heard Kieth boldly praising the government's "reboot the Empire" initiative then trying to criticize him in that stupid voice for not describing our new space navy forensically enough

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

oh and Crombone's lawyers are challenging his suspension

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Lollolol

Holy shit, he's doing it https://t.co/sSHoVceOVD

— Sinan Kose (@TheSinanKose) November 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link


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