ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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No idea what the 'Covid Recovery Group' are on about - either you keep people away from an infectious disease or you don't. Mealy-mouthed bunch of Tory grandees who want the proles to take their chances in order to keep their gravy train rolling, but I suppose they can't quite say that outright - yet.

fire up the curb your enthusiasm theme music (again) (Matt #2), Sunday, 22 November 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

thought experiment- if an imaginary person was not in theory opposed to violence against those who support violence against refugees, how much of british public would they not in theory be opposed to violence against?

Left, Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link

The P&ID thing is before her being Home Secretary though - she was still the disgraced former Secretary of State for International Development then, so that's alright.

It is bleakly funny that the alleged reason for her dismissal is not telling civil servants that they're fucking useless, but that she just didn't try hard enough to stop refugees - when she'd clearly be out there with a motorboat and a Sten gun given the chance.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link

Compelling analysis of why feminism has put society in the gutter, by new EHRC commissioner Jessica Butcher

She added: “Working-class girls have been deprived of jobs that they love such as Page 3 girls and [Formula One] grid girls because other women disapprove of them. What happened to ‘my body, my choice’?”

timber euros (seandalai), Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

thinking of those F1 grid girls, in greyhound racing in the 90's they usually had a glamourous looking woman wearing tight jodhpurs and a blazer who would walk past all the traps to check none of the dogs had backed up + raise the white flag to signal for the electric hare to be set off. One day for the first time there was a black guy who came out with the flag and just about everyone in the betting shop I was in erupted into laughter, they were about 80% afro-Caribbean punters ftr!

calzino, Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

The Guatemalan people are the most advanced of democracies, so impressive.

Protesters in Guatemala brought a guillotine to Congress pic.twitter.com/aNPwQy7kSo

— lime 🖤🤍💙 (@Hezbolsonaro) November 21, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 November 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link

Left I'm with you on this, if you fancy going full Baader Meinhof hit me up on webmail, also anybody with access to a stash of weapons

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

stoked for the madness. chalk this up as one more in the incompetence column for kieth
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/22/labour-infighting-inquiry-damaging-starmers-position

reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

I'd like to damage Keith's position, preferably by pushing him off a bridge.

calzino, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

^if you see this guy walking around carrying a bridge, be v afraid imo

imago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

I actually keep a few rusty old suspension bridges in my pocket with my spare change tbh. But I'm usually good enough to yell incoming Brunel!! before getting any out.

calzino, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

wait so Labour cunts are worried that an inquiry into Labour cunts will reveal that there a bunch of Labour cunts?

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

you are supposed to loyally support them through thick and thin like a football club or like the Dems, no matter how fucking evil and useless they are!

calzino, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

visions of calz erecting a replica of the royal albert (tamar) bridge and then putting effigies of tony blair on top of it to lure starmerites

imago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

one of brunel's more underrated imo

imago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

I think these days the current Dems leader is actually less conservative and more willing to piss off right-wing bigots than Starmer is, at least in the messaging he puts out.

calzino, Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

Yeah, when the creepoid US prez to be acts lefter than you you know you're fucking useless

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

we need an international movement that connects migration, climate change, economic development, and income inequality while promising more money in your pocket every month. it’s all fucking connected. every little boat trying to cross the channel or the mediterranean is a stain on the conscience of the global north and a direct consequence of political decisions to redistribute income upwards instead of using all this spare capacity to actually fix our fucking problems. people need work. there is work to be done. energy production is not fit for purpose. there is work to be done. hospitals are full. there is work to be done. let’s match up investment with what’s needed. frankly by some measures things were better in eastern kentucky in the 1930s. at least there were evil mining companies willing to exploit your labor. now you’re just left to rot and die of opioid addiction. sorry i realise this is a uk politics thread but i feel like we need to get joined the fuck up

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

i have good news and bad news

The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom's Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.[1][2] A conspiracy theory has spread in response, claiming it will be used to bring in socialist and environmental changes[3] and a supposed New World Order.[2]

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

we await king charles iii's socialist cavalier revolution

imago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

Tracer I know what you're saying, when I watch generic US history of the 20th century documentaries on TV I get a kind of nostalgia for the paternalistic care big companies used to show their employees

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

even just straight up exploitation would be an improvement, which i realise is what they’re counting on us all believing

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

getting wistful about those halcyon days when you could have a shit but stable job for life and have a reasonable standard of living if you wanted pretty much sums up how fucked up late period capitalism has become. Now when you apply for shit zero-hour contract jobs sweeping up Asda car-park you are competing against ex-University professors and young people with civil engineering degrees!

calzino, Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Exackly

Still, we wouldn't want socialism or anything would we?

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

It's all my fault. According to the Mail on Sunday:

"Sir Keir is also said to have been ‘infuriated’ when former Corbyn speechwriter Alex Nunns tweeted that Mr Corbyn’s readmission as an ordinary member was ‘a huge climbdown from the leadership and a victory for the Left’." pic.twitter.com/E0IedYrqLE

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) November 22, 2020

some absolutely pathetic spin, apparently from Starmer's comms team here where they try to blame a tweet by that nice fellow with the ridiculous hairstyle for his capitulation to the right on Corbyn. The latest polls aren't good and he seems to be losing his mind under the slightest bit of pressure. Fucking horrible person, wtf were ppl thinking about ever voting for this cunt.

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

Imagine Keirmit getting infuriated

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link

there is that clip from the McLibel doc where you see him getting arsey with one of his staff because he doesn't know to use a floppy disc and is insisting it's all their fault. An arrogant slimeball boss "I'm right, you're wrong, because I say so" variety of getting angry, where you get a running "I'm not amused" commentary in a kermit voice!

It's like how Nunn says, it's a bizarre bit of spin, because if it was true it would make him look thin-skinned and petty and lacking serious authority. I always thought the idea of spin was making yourself look good!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

Similar in the Guardian earlier this week. Although this is less specific... pic.twitter.com/YLHOOWvWr4

— Dr Unpleasant⁷ (@drunpleasant) November 22, 2020

reporting for outrider duty sah

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/0/07/Chrome_spray.jpg

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Monday, 23 November 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link

yee-hah!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 08:06 (three years ago) link

Dodds on break with McDonnell approach: "We're in a different set of circumstances now, very obviously. Labour has suffered from a number of general election defeats. We've got to face up to that... understand why people may not have trusted us or might have turned away from us"

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) November 23, 2020



Dudds who does barely anything to challenge Sunak and has selective amnesia on the dismal election defeats and diminishing voter turnouts for Brown and Miliband. That 2015 vintage still reeks like tepid piss, it hasn't matured into a fine wine.

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

It's a vote winner tho

Westminster Voting Intention:

CON: 38% (=)
LAB: 37% (-3)
LDM: 7% (+2)
SNP: 6% (+1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
BXP: 4% (=)

Via @YouGov, 17-18 Nov.
Changes w/ 11-12 Nov.

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) November 23, 2020

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

to quote one of twitter pals: this season -1 is the new 20!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

Why are Lib Dems moving back, Keith is giving Jezza a good kicking? Fucking libs man.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

the slow Ed Davey bounce eh?

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

LibDem voters just need a bit of time to consider Ed's complex history and decide whether or not to vote Tory again!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Keirmit has shown that he is a mere puppet of the hard left, only sensible choice is to vote Lib Dem

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

just in time for the Oxvax eh

The PM appears to have a nasty cough.

— PARLY (@PARLYapp) November 23, 2020

nashwan, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

please tell me this festival of superspreading at the end of December is some kind of joke?

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

Downing Street press conference: do we really believe that Johnson can't appear in a proper quality broadcast rather than the laptop-y one we're seeing?

I mean, someone could PPE-up, run in with a remote controlled camera and run out again.

Monty Don managed to film himself for Gardener's World in better quality than the fucking Prime Minister.

djh, Monday, 23 November 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

Just opened up the “winter plan” pdf and on the 1st page

January and February are traditionally the hardest months for the NHS, the depths of winter, when our hospital wards are under the greatest pressure. We cannot afford a third or even a fourth spike of the disease. And yet a new surge in the new year is exactly what will happen unless we fail to take adequate precautions.


The attention to detail is reassuring

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Monday, 23 November 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

🧐🧐🧐

🤨 pic.twitter.com/bGGGT9bJGo

— Ilyas Nagdee (@ilyas_nagdee) November 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

Ian Dunt and all that shower to back this too.

Reeves made the case that a deal – even if inadequate – is only the start. It would be a platform for building on, and would show Labour is listening to voters. Told this received support from MPs including Hilary Benn, Liam Byrne, Harriet Harman, Sarah Owen, Yvette Cooper.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 November 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

lol nothing matters

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 November 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

this plan has received support from some of labour’s top-flight unprincipled idiots and cowards, we should definitely get behind it

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 November 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

You've got to give it to the Keithsy and Reevesy show ... they've managed quite well to suck at least as much shit as the Tories

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

13 NEC members say: "We have decided not to remain in the NEC meeting today in order to show very clearly how factional the decisions of the current Labour leader have become. We will be returning to future NEC meetings to be the legitimate voice of the membership"

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 24, 2020

mass NEC walkout earlier over the Beckett vote they couldn't win or something.. it's a war.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link

well a walkout figuratively speaking in the zoom era I should have said.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:48 (three years ago) link

13 NEC members say

Siri, define "faction"

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

well a war might mean there would be some return fire by the other side, but this is just a shooting fish in a barrel purge for Kieth.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link

at least Beckett get's to make up for her biggest political mistake (that she literally cried over), which wasn't backing the Iraq invasion, no is was lending her nomination to Corbz in 2015!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link


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