ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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we await king charles iii's socialist cavalier revolution

imago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

Tracer I know what you're saying, when I watch generic US history of the 20th century documentaries on TV I get a kind of nostalgia for the paternalistic care big companies used to show their employees

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

even just straight up exploitation would be an improvement, which i realise is what they’re counting on us all believing

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

getting wistful about those halcyon days when you could have a shit but stable job for life and have a reasonable standard of living if you wanted pretty much sums up how fucked up late period capitalism has become. Now when you apply for shit zero-hour contract jobs sweeping up Asda car-park you are competing against ex-University professors and young people with civil engineering degrees!

calzino, Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Exackly

Still, we wouldn't want socialism or anything would we?

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

It's all my fault. According to the Mail on Sunday:

"Sir Keir is also said to have been ‘infuriated’ when former Corbyn speechwriter Alex Nunns tweeted that Mr Corbyn’s readmission as an ordinary member was ‘a huge climbdown from the leadership and a victory for the Left’." pic.twitter.com/E0IedYrqLE

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) November 22, 2020

some absolutely pathetic spin, apparently from Starmer's comms team here where they try to blame a tweet by that nice fellow with the ridiculous hairstyle for his capitulation to the right on Corbyn. The latest polls aren't good and he seems to be losing his mind under the slightest bit of pressure. Fucking horrible person, wtf were ppl thinking about ever voting for this cunt.

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

Imagine Keirmit getting infuriated

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link

there is that clip from the McLibel doc where you see him getting arsey with one of his staff because he doesn't know to use a floppy disc and is insisting it's all their fault. An arrogant slimeball boss "I'm right, you're wrong, because I say so" variety of getting angry, where you get a running "I'm not amused" commentary in a kermit voice!

It's like how Nunn says, it's a bizarre bit of spin, because if it was true it would make him look thin-skinned and petty and lacking serious authority. I always thought the idea of spin was making yourself look good!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

Similar in the Guardian earlier this week. Although this is less specific... pic.twitter.com/YLHOOWvWr4

— Dr Unpleasant⁷ (@drunpleasant) November 22, 2020

reporting for outrider duty sah

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Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Monday, 23 November 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link

yee-hah!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 08:06 (three years ago) link

Dodds on break with McDonnell approach: "We're in a different set of circumstances now, very obviously. Labour has suffered from a number of general election defeats. We've got to face up to that... understand why people may not have trusted us or might have turned away from us"

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) November 23, 2020



Dudds who does barely anything to challenge Sunak and has selective amnesia on the dismal election defeats and diminishing voter turnouts for Brown and Miliband. That 2015 vintage still reeks like tepid piss, it hasn't matured into a fine wine.

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

It's a vote winner tho

Westminster Voting Intention:

CON: 38% (=)
LAB: 37% (-3)
LDM: 7% (+2)
SNP: 6% (+1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
BXP: 4% (=)

Via @YouGov, 17-18 Nov.
Changes w/ 11-12 Nov.

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) November 23, 2020

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

to quote one of twitter pals: this season -1 is the new 20!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

Why are Lib Dems moving back, Keith is giving Jezza a good kicking? Fucking libs man.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

the slow Ed Davey bounce eh?

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

LibDem voters just need a bit of time to consider Ed's complex history and decide whether or not to vote Tory again!

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Keirmit has shown that he is a mere puppet of the hard left, only sensible choice is to vote Lib Dem

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

just in time for the Oxvax eh

The PM appears to have a nasty cough.

— PARLY (@PARLYapp) November 23, 2020

nashwan, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

please tell me this festival of superspreading at the end of December is some kind of joke?

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

Downing Street press conference: do we really believe that Johnson can't appear in a proper quality broadcast rather than the laptop-y one we're seeing?

I mean, someone could PPE-up, run in with a remote controlled camera and run out again.

Monty Don managed to film himself for Gardener's World in better quality than the fucking Prime Minister.

djh, Monday, 23 November 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

Just opened up the “winter plan” pdf and on the 1st page

January and February are traditionally the hardest months for the NHS, the depths of winter, when our hospital wards are under the greatest pressure. We cannot afford a third or even a fourth spike of the disease. And yet a new surge in the new year is exactly what will happen unless we fail to take adequate precautions.


The attention to detail is reassuring

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Monday, 23 November 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

🧐🧐🧐

🤨 pic.twitter.com/bGGGT9bJGo

— Ilyas Nagdee (@ilyas_nagdee) November 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

Ian Dunt and all that shower to back this too.

Reeves made the case that a deal – even if inadequate – is only the start. It would be a platform for building on, and would show Labour is listening to voters. Told this received support from MPs including Hilary Benn, Liam Byrne, Harriet Harman, Sarah Owen, Yvette Cooper.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 November 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

lol nothing matters

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 November 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

this plan has received support from some of labour’s top-flight unprincipled idiots and cowards, we should definitely get behind it

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 November 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

You've got to give it to the Keithsy and Reevesy show ... they've managed quite well to suck at least as much shit as the Tories

calzino, Monday, 23 November 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

13 NEC members say: "We have decided not to remain in the NEC meeting today in order to show very clearly how factional the decisions of the current Labour leader have become. We will be returning to future NEC meetings to be the legitimate voice of the membership"

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 24, 2020

mass NEC walkout earlier over the Beckett vote they couldn't win or something.. it's a war.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link

well a walkout figuratively speaking in the zoom era I should have said.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:48 (three years ago) link

13 NEC members say

Siri, define "faction"

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

well a war might mean there would be some return fire by the other side, but this is just a shooting fish in a barrel purge for Kieth.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link

at least Beckett get's to make up for her biggest political mistake (that she literally cried over), which wasn't backing the Iraq invasion, no is was lending her nomination to Corbz in 2015!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link

Warning ...contains Yogic Flying.... From a 1994 Natural Law Party Party Political Broadcast pic.twitter.com/9G1dAsX6LB

— Alan Kinsella (@electionlit) November 24, 2020

just looking at ideas for a new party, fancy bouncing around on your arse whilst listening to some George Harrison with a bifta!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

I see..

Impossible situation for Labour this. Any option - support, oppose, abstain - full of danger and ultimately makes no difference to the final outcome. https://t.co/913p0SsHmi

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) November 24, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 13:18 (three years ago) link

There's something perfect about deciding in advance whether you're going to support or abstain on a bill you haven't read yet.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

"Impossible situation for Labour this" it's quite touching how much this former remainiac supports the Labour leadership these days.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

would've been good to think about the danger of grafting the undemocratic, unpopular people's vote campaign on to the Labour Party before the last election

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

Starmer whipping MP's to vote for ANY deal to apparently win back 4050 grim white lives matter troglodytes in Burnley and Workington just sums up what an unprincipled dickhead he is, and if it is a shit deal that impoverishes millions in the north it won't win him anything. People's Vote always was just a bunch of soft Tories more concerned with destroying Corbynism than stopping brexit, some said it at the time and they've been proved correct.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 08:43 (three years ago) link

There is definitely something in this though. It was part of 2017's Lab surge. Except what Starmer is doing is supporting any piece of paper on the table.

Labour did very well in the North of England in 2017, partly on the promise to respect the referendum result. It's a genuine failure of Corbyn's time that he didn't insist on this at his point of maximum authority. https://t.co/Ir0fYpYVEP

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) November 25, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 09:23 (three years ago) link

wasn't McD at fault there as well? I recall him as part of the pressure to appease the Remainer clique

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link

that's the problem when you've got the most left-wing Labour leader since the 40's. One misstep and the whole project crumbles to pieces.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

while all the usual tory cunts queue up to gleefully piss on the corpse

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link

TBF to them both, 70 per cent of Lab members wanted Remain, including virtually all my friends who supported Corbyn.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

and at least six of them have Ilx accounts!

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link

By and large it's the 30 per cent spread over 2-3 dozen constituencies that delivered the 2019 majority. Which means remainers get nothing.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link

IKR? If cooler heads had prevailed we might be in EEA membership but technically out of the EU, with no upset to EU citizens long settled here and no loss of rights around travelling or working abroad.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link

imagine the vitriol if Corbyn was still leader and he said: I'll do a three line whip on any old turd of deal, who cares?

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

and that Kieth fed this straight to the fucking S*n. remember when he told a crowd of scousers he wouldn't deal with them and then the next he told a load a fabian society wankers he would. That should have been enough to put people off voting for this cunt, but here we are.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

Austerity sequel looks lit lads

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link

we are still in the first Austerity movie - it never ended, and it makes Bela Tarr look like a maker of short jaunty comedy shorts!

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

I trust them to up the stakes, we’ve had it too good for too long

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link


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