Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

Did anyone say there's no difference between Biden and "a lot of right-wing politicians"? Nor did I see anyone say he's "100% evil" for that matter.

Joe Biden has spent his career serving his interests and ambition and the interests of donors and special interests that support him. Sometimes that might overlap with the common good but there's little evidence to show that was his primary motivation.

This does not mean he's 100% evil nor that he's Ted Cruz (who has spent 99% of his adult life in "public service").

welcome all, to the Pedantic Bullshit Human Centipede, level 8

Do you think the former means the latter? There are a lot of right-wing politicians that it would apply to, no?

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No, I don't think "has worked in public service" *necessarily* means "is interested in the common good." I was just adding a detail. But you're right, it's irrelevant.

I've come to realize that one of the places where I differ most from people to my left is not in ideology or policy but in how I perceive the motivations of individual Democratic politicians. Basically, I think most Democrats in state/national politics are well-intentioned and few are irredeemable (even if I wish that many had more progressive views and took bolder approaches to politics).

Well, I guess if corporations are the common interest, and manufactured consent around his racial policies is taken into consideration, Biden has served for the common good.

This is the Biden sucks thread. If you don't like it when we talk about how much Biden sucks, then take it elsewhere, Karl. Afaic, Biden is an evil, racist fuck who serves at the whim and pocketbook of the donor class, who would rather see the population miserable and making money for them than any sort of common good.

Can we actually retitle this "The Biden Sucks Thread"? Maybe that would encourage more wide-ranging discussion to migrate to other Biden threads. Sic points out that there are 11 Biden threads in the archives, but this is the only one that's gotten any significant traction in the past two years, because people view it as a default.

I think that's a great idea, tbh.

Biden should get a new thread on Jan. 20 anyway

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i won't take it elsewhere. of course biden sucks. you know what else also sucks? some of these novelty sushi gummies i have sitting here. some of them are 100% evil, in fact.

i wish there were ways to differentiate between how a human being sucks and gummy roe sucks, but i guess we'll have to make do and put them in the same giant category and resist any urge to distinguish between them

let's not dumb our conversation down

This is the Biden sucks thread.

Point taken. We need to open another Biden/Harris thread asap. Then this thread can serve its highest purpose of letting the same six or seven people bitch about Biden's awfulness to one another. If they try to infect the new thread with endlessly repeating how much Biden sucks we can say, "take it to the 'Biden sucks' thread; we're having a different discussion here."

so we're agreed, we'll start the "Biden is Great and beyond daily, withering criticism" thread

this shit is 100% as dumb as the shit i hear from my mom

what a fucking 840766091

Please understand that imo repeating "Biden sucks" is not "withering criticism".

i was trying to be sarcastic and failed.

what i meant was that of course, any thread about biden is going to involve lots of criticism, because he has made many mistakes and will continue to make them. i was trying to be sarcastic and offer the diametric opposite of a commom theme of this thread, which is "biden is evil and there is no difference between him and the rightwing, when you think about it"

Not many posts saying "Biden sucks"

Yes. Many say "Biden is irredeemable" or "Biden is beyond all hope" or "Biden has sold us all out and I hate him". Which, I admit, has its place, which is in this thread, where such sentiments can flow as freely as hormones at a frat party.

I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am
I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before

Biden sucks!

he's filling his cabinet with just the worst kind of douchebags afaict

Second verse
Same as the first

Hormones at frat parties can flow on any thread. And I've seen many a thread turned around from its original purpose in my time here. No doubt it will happen again xps

Many say "Biden is irredeemable" or "Biden is beyond all hope" or "Biden has sold us all out and I hate him". Which, I admit, has its place, which is in this thread, where such sentiments can flow as freely as hormones at a frat party.

or PFOA in your bloodstream

Can we actually retitle this "The Biden Sucks Thread"?

Add it to the title, but "Senator from MBNA" (/Citi) is part and parcel of why Joe Biden sucks.

Putting in even the smallest amount of effort to defend the guy who's working his ass off to find a job for Rahm Emanuel is incomprehensible.

Tell me how a man who has consistently served US hegemonic interests in bombing innocent people abroad, building up a racist police state and carceral system, and serving corporate interests above those of his constituents is any better than some of the right-wingers you speak of?

Found this message from the Communist Party of the Philippines, which is basically Joe Biden doesn't fully fucking suck.

The TOP's "Maoism" is a masquerade to attack Maoism. Their "open letter" was not a cordial criticism from one Maoist to another, but was an open denunciation of the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist line of the CPP. pic.twitter.com/ubg8Bwj8HE

— Marco L. Valbuena (@marco_cpp) November 24, 2020

Seems to me that the dumb idiots itt are making judgments based on specific things Biden is doing while the smart sensible people are getting furious at the addendum “and is therefore no better than Donald trump” that they just made up in their imaginations

"Putting in even the smallest amount of effort to defend the guy who's working his ass off to find a job for Rahm Emanuel is incomprehensible."

??????????????????????????????

DEFEND????

FUCKING READ

SATAN, I CALL TO THEE

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING??

when did we all start to tolerate this constant stream of horseshit from all sides?

oh wait, i forgot, it's ME who is the bullshitter that the keepers of true left knowledge can't tolerate. why? because i can tell the distinguish between 1 ton of shit and 5 tons of shit? why can i tell the difference? because i've got these motherfuckers dumping it on me all the time

not that it makes a difference, but I think harping on why this guy has sucked, why he continues to suck (noms & appts), and why his admin and D leadership in general keep telegraphing the ways that they’ll suck into the future is ok, cathartic, and could possibly, hopefully, lead to better organization on the part of the Left. I dont know if there have been ‘official’ numbers on this, but I suspect that despite their misgivings they showed up in better numbers in key spots (MI, MN) than all those Lincoln Project-y republicans we were supposed to win over.

I’ve voted straight ticket D in every presidential and (I think) every mid term for the last 18 years. (I didn’t even vote for Bernie in the 2016 primary!) And the money. I’ve given so much money (imo). Sometimes I just want to speak to the Manager of the Democrats, and those avenues seem to have been essentially cordoned off and reserved for people who seem really out of step with the D base.

not you km or really even most posters itt but Aimless's clockwork umbrage at criticism of Joe Biden does come off as weirdly "defensive"

oh wait, i forgot, it's ME who is the bullshitter that the keepers of true left knowledge can't tolerate.

???

why did you guys break Karl

who's gonna deliver the mail now that the Mailman is down

Rob Halford once bragged about his ability to deliver goods

do not want to deliver mail to the left's equivalent of my (non-thinking, zero room for subtlety) mom. return to sender

there's a joke in here somewhere about mailmen and horseshoe theory

like, i read this thread and i can hear my mom's constant stream of bullshit, and how she takes any information you give her and just distorts it into something that's vague and meaningless and pointless. put aside the fact that she's constantly factually wrong. that's not what connects her and the far right to this thread (and many people on the left). it's that she's no longer coherent or talking in a way that deserves a response

Which facts have people gotten wrong about Joe Biden?

Rob Halford once bragged about his ability to deliver goods

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal)

He promised I had another thing coming!

great question, not disingenuous at all

here comes captain pedantic bullshit

seriously, you're like a fucking climate change denier on wattsupwiththat.com in 2006

ad hominem!!!!!!

You see mad that people are saying a lot of accurate things about Joe Biden and then, as wins said, grafting on "and is therefore no better than Donald trump," which zero people have suggested.

All the people you're raging at voted for Joe Biden over Donald Trump.