Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Of Sunak’s announcements on Wednesday, it was the cut to the foreign aid budget which Iqbal thought would go down best locally. “I’ve lived in this country for about 30 years and as somebody coloured, you are still classed as a foreigner,” he mused, suggesting he had never quite been accepted locally, despite also running a curry house around the corner for years. “It might be good for the average British folk if the government is giving more to people here than abroad.”

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nashwan, Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:52 (three years ago) link

People are misinformed and ignorant about politics? There are no lessons for a journalist to learn here!

scampus fugit (gyac), Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

"curry house" is annoyingly patronising from a Guardian journalist. call it a restaurant. like "builders' tea"

mahb, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:04 (three years ago) link

They don't actually have restaurants north of Stratford-on-Avon though, don't be silly.

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

ogmor come back to ilx we are talking about the north!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:11 (three years ago) link

Pidd is the very worst - even her name sounds like it should be onomatopoeia for a particularly desultory and condescending journalistic squib.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

is this not the lady who used her small business owning landlord pal as a labour-turned-tory source

reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link

we just have gravel pits where we feight to the death for mouldy cobs of bread up here

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

Would really need a worst Guardian writer poll. Too many to choose from.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link

is this not the lady who used her small business owning landlord pal as a labour-turned-tory source

― reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:14 (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Twentymans. yeah. She obviously noticed all the criticism and decided the best thing to do was double down on her approach.

Am I wrong in thinking the implied message behind all these pieces is "Keith, pssst, this is what you need to do?"

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

turning a big dial taht says "Racism" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right

— wint (@dril) March 15, 2017

Neil S, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link

dril has her number!

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:48 (three years ago) link

there's always a dril tweet

Neil S, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

There’s always that dril tweet tbh

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

"my mario tip: Anything is possible in the world of Mario." - my mario tip

— wint (@dril) August 4, 2014

mark s, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link

Who is the dril person? I have never known.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

Who is the dril person? I have never known.


pinefox, i salute you.

Fizzles, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

Who is the dril person? I have never known.


pinefox i salute you.

Fizzles, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link

twice.

Fizzles, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

the old 2 Goomba salute

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

Can't believe dril book hasn't got an ILB thread

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

I was given the dril book last Christmas as a novelty present, would love to see it

scampus fugit (gyac), Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

I have seen the person's tweets before, but don't know who they are or where they are coming from, literally or figuratively, really.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

That's a relatively straightforward dril tweet (the 'Racism' one). Most of them make me feel old and confused. Which may well be the point.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

Well here's the news daddio, he's just been denounced as passé and a total square on the twitter thread!

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

Where's my pitchfork!

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

There’s always that dril tweet tbh

― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:31 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is the gift that keeps on giving if you're a Graun hack or a politician

Neil S, Thursday, 26 November 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

I have googled 'dril' before but tbh the explanations left me none the wiser

plax (ico), Thursday, 26 November 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

dril hasn’t been the same since he sold out

Left, Thursday, 26 November 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

Guardian Christmas quiz of 'dril tweet or Adrian Chiles standfirst?' pls.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

lmao

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

Moore also on substack

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

Don’t snark – this ‘Brexit festival’ may turn out to be just the tonic we need
Gaby Hinsliff

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/27/brexit-festival-eu-national

the pinefox, Friday, 27 November 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

if it works, there’s a useful lesson here for the left about telling a modern, upbeat, inclusive national story – something any aspirant prime minister must learn to do – without being either painfully jingoistic or embarrassingly naff.

Sounds like Gaby Hinsliff thinks she is on 'the left'.

the pinefox, Friday, 27 November 2020 09:53 (three years ago) link

So what is this 'modern, upbeat, inclusive national story' she's talking about?

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Friday, 27 November 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

It's odd that Hinsliff has this sinecure.

Freedland has been there for over 20 years - and though a dreadful, mendacious person, he has a kind of talent for glib narration. Freeman is a bad fashion columnist who enjoyed mission creep. Williams is another long-standing staffer who sort of earned her status. Hyde is bad in the ways everyone says, but has talent for it, and a big following. Jenkins is a substantial, experienced journalist. So is Toynbee, in another way. Harris was quite significant in the music press and worked his way in to political writing. You can see a certain logic with most of them.

But Hinsliff writes this stuff for a major outlet every week, despite being a nobody. Has anyone ever said 'I'll buy, or even click on, the Guardian for the Gaby Hinsliff article?'; 'I can't wait to hear what Gaby Hinsliff has to say today'; or 'Gaby Hinsliff should appear on TV discussion programmes more?'. Does anyone know or care anything about her beside the terrible opinion articles she cranks out?

She seems an anomaly in being awful, like others, but also in such a nondescript, nobody, beige way.

the pinefox, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link

Will this inclusive national story include the nation of the UK that voted 62/38 to stay in the EU?

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Friday, 27 November 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link

it's amazing how passionate and principled these m/c guardian-wanker Remainer ultras are, just inspirational.

calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link

This might not really be the right thread but I've enjoyed (no, not quite the right word) reading John Crace. He often sounds sad and broken and as if he's really struggling with the world of Covid.

djh, Friday, 27 November 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

It is the right thread. But do you mean you enjoy this because you like him, or don't like him?

the pinefox, Saturday, 28 November 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

I think ... he just sounds human.

djh, Saturday, 28 November 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link

My guardian is worse than it used to be - the guide is missing pages 19-42 but has two copies of all the other pages, so I've no idea what's on TV until Tuesday.

koogs, Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

You are quite old fashioned aren't you Koogs? (not meant in a zingy way ftr)

calzino, Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

Why, I oughta...

It's probably the last reason I buy a paper. Used to get it Thursday for the tech section, but they stopped that. Friday for the music section, but they stopped that.

The radio times would be cheaper but I like the exhibitions list too, although not so useful these days.

koogs, Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

I know this column probably isn't the worst of her crimes, just, they pay her how much for this utterly pointless shit while getting rid of loads of half-decent writers and closing every interesting section?

discogs marketplace of ideas (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 29 November 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

lol i always think the observer is just lots of columns like this and that people like to read them on a sunday and still feel like they're reading the grownup newspaper

plax (ico), Monday, 30 November 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link

"listen to this...!"

plax (ico), Monday, 30 November 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link

I mean if you could paid for such lazy shitposting any of us would take the money, but some really stupid and horrible movie opinions in there as well.

calzino, Monday, 30 November 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

i actually started reading it but my blood pressure was getting dangerous by the end of the first paragraph so i bailed.

Carry On Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 November 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link


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