THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists

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this new Simmy record 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

winters (josh), Saturday, 28 November 2020 09:04 (ten months ago) link

I think “Imihla Nezolo” is my favourite track - that bass, those “hey, hey”s.

Also, Sun-El & Ami Faku’s “Mandinaye” keeps growing and growing on me. It’s so beautiful.

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 16:28 (ten months ago) link

yes the simmy album is really good, shame on me for taking so long to get to it

dyl, Saturday, 28 November 2020 21:24 (ten months ago) link

I went to listen to the Simmy on hike today, typed in Simi by accident and lo and behold I like her too! (Updated highlife from what I've gathered so far)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 29 November 2020 01:29 (ten months ago) link

just leaving this here: an online launch event for the Sun-El album that starts in 10 hours (23h15 until midnight SA time). it’s free, but you have to register your info at some event ticketing/payment company platform in order to validate your ticket, which made me decide to pass on this opportunity, but ymmv:

#ToTheWorldAndBeyon #ttwab Don’t miss out the virtual concert tonight 03/12/2020 (23:15).
Register for free at:
Follow the commander @sunelmusicianza for more info.

— Sphiwe Aaron Zwane  (@Sphiwe_Zwane) December 3, 2020

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Thursday, 3 December 2020 11:06 (ten months ago) link

btw Sun-El has dropped four more new tracks in the past four days. I now feel confident enough to make the following predictions for the album:

• there will be loads of great music on it
• and plenty of less than great music as well
• 1+1=2: it will be much too long

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Thursday, 3 December 2020 12:27 (ten months ago) link

i expect that at the very least it'll be possible to carve an excellent ~hour of music out of it

ufo, Thursday, 3 December 2020 12:41 (ten months ago) link

oh for sure
also: it's unlikely i'll be able to sufficiently listen to it before the end of January

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2020 20:35 (ten months ago) link

i will not have enough time to listen to the whole thing before i should sleep so i think i'll just start w/ vol. 1 tonight

opener is v epic... i think that's a "nature boy" interpolation for a few seconds?... despite being relatively unmoved by some of the preview tracks i'm not especially confident in that prediction breastcrawl. but we shall see!

dyl, Friday, 4 December 2020 05:28 (ten months ago) link

have only listened to the first disc so far but it's all gorgeous. only issue is when the album is 80 minutes long, the songs do blend together a bit, so it'll take a while to really wrap my head around it.

he's said the first disc is supposed to be his classic sound (he certainly succeeded there!) and the second disc is him experimenting and broadening his sound so i'm curious how different it will be. i didn't like "chasing the summer" much when i listened to it yesterday though.

ufo, Friday, 4 December 2020 09:33 (ten months ago) link

that virtual concert I mentioned the other day is now on YouTube, and serves as a wonderful good-old-fashioned-album-length introduction to this ambitious endeavour - 46 minutes to the album’s 156:

very nice visuals too, and Tout EL World shows up - with the exception of Claudio x Kenza

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Saturday, 5 December 2020 20:23 (ten months ago) link

listened to the whole thing yesterday, sorta let it wash over me in the semi-background. most everything sounded good at the very least. hope to discover some stunners when I’ll be playing it loud. (“Lengane” with Simmy is probably one, it’s been around for a while).

there was one immediate lovely surprise for me tho, the track I happened to play last of all: the very un-Sun-El-like “No Drama” which has an amapiano-by-way-of-West-Africa feel.

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Saturday, 5 December 2020 20:53 (ten months ago) link

Listened to the first disc yesterday and the 2nd today. It's a lot more consistent than his last one overall, but the peaks are not nearly as high. There's no Akanamali or Sonini on this, despite the latter's vocalist Simmy guesting on 4(!) tracks. He's digging into a formula more, and while there's some interesting genre dabbling on the 2nd disc and the production remains quite impeccable, a part of me is worried he'll never touch the transcendence of those early singles again.

octobeard, Saturday, 5 December 2020 22:29 (ten months ago) link

Despite the criticisms, there's a pretty amazing record here, especially if you edit it down to one disc, which I might end up doing at some point. Hard not to expect quite a bit of filler on an album 2 hours and 40 minutes long.

octobeard, Saturday, 5 December 2020 22:30 (ten months ago) link

agree that those highest Himalaya highs are not there, but the four lead singles (“Uhuru”, “Ubomi Abumanga”, “Never Never” and “Mandinaya”) have all been amazing, and he could (should) have included “Into Ingawe” as well. if you add the next-best gorgeous new tracks and one or two of those Sun-El instrumentals, plus the Niniola and “No Drama” as bonuses you’d have a magnificent set.
it becomes a lot less interesting when he features Sauti Sol, and “Garden”-variety Sun-El is not where it’s at. a Chris Martin collab is probably inevitable tho.

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Saturday, 5 December 2020 22:57 (ten months ago) link

I feel the second album blues more with the new Simmy. it’s very good, don’t get me wrong, but it’s just a folder with a lot of tracks to me, whereas the first Tugela Fairy was a relatively concise and perfectly balanced out album.

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Saturday, 5 December 2020 23:03 (ten months ago) link

oh btw, if you came here for the first new Sha Sha song in over a year, you can find it over here on the “eMcimbini”/Kabza & Maphorisa thread.

it’s very dreamy.

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Saturday, 5 December 2020 23:24 (ten months ago) link

I feel the second album blues more with the new Simmy. it’s very good, don’t get me wrong, but it’s just a folder with a lot of tracks to me

I need to revisit it again, but I feel similarly about hers as I do with Sun-El's - quantity over quality, but with a baseline of quality still present. If you edit it down it's great, but still a step down from her debut. I'm not feeling "blues" per se with these records, they're both still great. I suppose that sentiment only comes off due to the relative comparisons. It's hard for any artist to pull off that untouchable magic they both had a couple years ago a 2nd time in a row, let alone the rest of their careers. I would love to be able to see them perform at some point post-pandemic. I hope they can find broader success outside of Africa/S.A. and that in turn might evolve their sound.

octobeard, Sunday, 6 December 2020 00:19 (ten months ago) link

with the sun-el album i largely agree that while it doesn't quite reach the incredible highs of "akanamali" and "sonini", it's still stronger than i expected for a 160 minute album and even when he's at his most formulaic it's still quite enjoyable because his formula is that good. as breastcrawl mentioned, the strongest tracks are still fantastic. he's kinda the ideal artist to make something this long because it's such pleasant music to have in the background all day. the second disc doesn't really expand his sound as much as i was expecting from his stated intention though.

the simmy album is a little more sprawling than her debut too but it's still quite strong. i still need to spend more time with it but it's not an obvious step down or anything

ufo, Sunday, 6 December 2020 01:03 (ten months ago) link

ymmv but i thought the new simmy album requires LOTS of repeat time to open properly. i wrote it off after three listens then gave it one more go and it just started catching fire.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 02:59 (ten months ago) link

Most of the English language tracks are very cringey for me. Couldn't get through them.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 03:47 (ten months ago) link

Agreed! Skip them!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 04:42 (ten months ago) link

New Samthing Soweto EP! Not yet cracked but I have a lotta faith in this guy.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2020 05:58 (ten months ago) link

The Samthing EP is glorious!
Upbeat, uptempo amapiano with producer De Mthuda at the helm for most of the tracks. I love Aymos and Daliwonga, but it’s a real treat to hear The Original Vocalist flexing again. Opener “Chomi” had me jumping around in the early morning, “Tilili” is one for the ages (love the interplay with his own voice and co-vocalist MalumNator), first single “Weekend”, which I liked not loved, falls perfectly into place here, and the live medley of previous hits with the Mzansi Youth Choir brings joy to the world.
Samthing Soweto ft. De Mthuda, Da Muziqal Chef & MalumNator • Tilili
Samthing Soweto ft. Mzansi Youth Choir • The Danko! Medley

im-polite-post-post-post-pomo (breastcrawl), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:03 (ten months ago) link

New Mlindo song as well!
Mlindo The Vocalist ft. Nathi • Mali

im-polite-post-post-post-pomo (breastcrawl), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:40 (ten months ago) link

I'm 3/4 into the Sun-El and I find it ridiculously consistent and pleasant. I guess it's the kind of fuck you artists can give to music nerds obsessed about quality over quantity or the need to produce tracks that can go into ILM polls. South Africa's obsession with Aaliyah's "Try Again" is funny.

Nabozo, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:06 (ten months ago) link


So is no one listening to the new Samthing? Try “Tilili” at least, folx!

(please don’t tell me y’all are too wrapped up in the noms bizz. December is part of 2020 too, the busiest part in SA in fact when it comes to new releases)

The songs are a little bit too squarely in the amapiano norm: not a problem as background to his fantastic voice but lacking the dynamics of his hits. Tilili is the best but the track still moves like a slug you could find at the end of any KDS album.

Yesterday I listened to every Dj Manzo SA / Comado / Mthandazo Gyata song and these guys have true potential.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:57 (ten months ago) link

yeah the samthing EP (lol that 36 minutes is now an EP with amapiano track lengths) is decent but sometimes feels a little too amapiano-by-numbers and isn't as strong as last year's album. still pleasant though

ufo, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 09:58 (ten months ago) link

The Danko! Medley is amazing! Highlight for me

octobeard, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:43 (ten months ago) link

im v late to this party but this is some of my favorite music ever rn

discourse stu (m bison), Saturday, 19 December 2020 18:46 (ten months ago) link

Uwrongo is on Obama’s EOY list lol

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:43 (ten months ago) link


the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:52 (ten months ago) link

he went with the edited version, very unpresidential imo

it’s summer in Mzansi:
Blaq Diamond • SummerYoMuthi

Love Mlindo's loopy vocal on this album cut:
Senzo Afrika ft. Mlindo The Vocalist & Alie Keys • Ngiyajola

The Danko! Medley is amazing! Highlight for me

― octobeard, donderdag 17 december 2020 3:43

there's a video now, just in time for Xmas:
Samthing Soweto ft. Mzansi Youth Choir • The Danko! Medley


This is an amazing uplifting clip. Love this new blue lipstick trend.

Nabozo, Sunday, 20 December 2020 23:42 (ten months ago) link

Watched it 10 times already. Now want them to cover every Amapiano song in existence.

Nabozo, Monday, 21 December 2020 01:06 (nine months ago) link

more beauty:
Fka Mash ft. Just Bheki & Da Muziqal Chef • Zamalobolo

obsessed with quality over quantity or the need to produce tracks (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 15:00 (nine months ago) link

happy new year!

Black Coffee ft. Maxine Ashley & Sun-El Musician • You Need Me

obsessed with quality over quantity or the need to produce tracks (breastcrawl), Thursday, 31 December 2020 19:56 (nine months ago) link

finally got around to the Claudio x Kenza album and I think it's maybe better than both Simmy's and Sun-El's albums this year

ufo, Friday, 1 January 2021 11:43 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

new Mthunzi track - with Sun-El:
Mthunzi • Elentulo

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 15:13 (seven months ago) link

reminder that most of the current South African musical action is now taking place here:

MZANSI MUZIQ 2021 🇿🇦 Rolling South Africa thread

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 15:19 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nobuhle, best known for her feature on Sun-El’s “Never Never”, has a new song out, “Phezulu”, produced by Kenza (no Claudio):

This is how she sung it live back in June:

(I can't help but miss this thread, but see the post above - the beauty is still on duty, it just moved to a different location!)

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 21 March 2021 16:42 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I made a Spotify playlist with (almost) everything posted in the MZANSI MUZIQ 2021 🇿🇦 Rolling South African thread as well as South(ern) African tracks posted this year on other threads, like this one:

ILM rolling 🇿🇦 Mzansi MusiQ 2021 🇸🇿 🇳🇦

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:21 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Kenza (without Claudio) with Ami Faku --->>

"Sihlobo Sami":

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 8 May 2021 20:28 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

love that track.

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 15:23 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Sweet and intoxicating, a few steps short of transcendental, really few. Love the vocals. There's also an extended mix
Sun-EL Musician - Portia's Chant

Nabozo, Sunday, 15 August 2021 09:27 (two months ago) link

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