Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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My general theme here is that psychogeography is a potentially cool idea mostly practised by nobs.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't know why I italicised that. Don't remember doing it in fact.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link

could be a l0u1s jagg3r thing

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

My general theme here is that psychogeography is a potentially cool idea mostly practised by nobs.

Nobs as in poshos or dicks? I'm leaving l0u1s jagg3r out of this one.

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Tom you oughta know by now I'm gonna use those terms near-synonymously. But I meant the latter really. Okay, what about psychogeography is cool unless you actual use that word to identify what you're doing? Have never to my knowledge told Mrs V I was popping out for a quick dérive.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link

for people to do what they do well, not rely on theory to give them the facts

this, really.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link

no i mean maybe the word psychogeography is coded to be in ital, a la lewis jagger.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link

More likely too much time on ILX and I'm just subconsciously inserting random bbcode tags at this point.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

by a former ilxor.

Owen Hatherley was a former ilxor? I did not know that. Under what nom de plume did he roll?

Originally opened in 1964 (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Wrong emphasis there - probably "did not know that" would make more sense (just about).

Originally opened in 1964 (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Steve Buscemi in Ghost World: discuss

Stevie T, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Ahhh, using your own name - clever...

Originally opened in 1964 (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Some sort of weirdo, this guy?

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Just catching up with this thread - loving the above and to and fro-ing of ideas and thinking - but when I read it I just liked it 'cos it was about roads.

Originally opened in 1964 (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

Dunno, too busy lolling at this timeless Miccio post: The fact that I couldn't jerk off to a movie rife with well-endowed hipster chicks in short skirts reaffirms how unpleasant I found most of the film.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

That's true, about the film, really - the girls are naurally beautiful but Buscemi is naturally vile.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

btw people have lost sight of the crucial question, which concerns the relation between narrative and theory in the work of Laura Barton.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

not clicking on tanya gold stories. the more you click, the more they'll print her.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 9 July 2009 09:25 (fourteen years ago) link

It is a very true truism that men are good at music because they prefer it to speech.

Not sure I'd call this a truism, maybe more a... challop

Real Men Play On Words (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 9 July 2009 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't even understand it - but then I am a man.

Originally opened in 1964 (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 9 July 2009 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link

A very challopy challop

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2009 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeh, not the most neutral of sources, but this is interesting -- especially the last line:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/5797090/Phone-tapping-row-analysis-of-The-Guardians-claims.html

I'm not for one second condoning phone hacking, phone tapping or indeed low-grade tabloid muck-raking, but -- as I said on the David Cameron thread -- there's something about the Guardian's triumphalist reporting that's rankled a little.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 11 July 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I do not wish to defend every action of the News International empire, but Rupert Murdoch has been an overwhelming force for good in this country's life and politics.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/12/coulson-murdoch-sky-phone-hacking

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 July 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Words fail. Perhaps Tim Montgomerie needs to watch this Fry & Laurie sketch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1aZcsY-O8Q

Stew, Sunday, 12 July 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

some proper old-school guardianism here:

The advertisement centres on the word "market" – a word that eastern Europeans/Russians pronounce "meerkat" – using talking CGI-animated meerkats. The sole point of this African animal's appearance is, it seems, to highlight the idea that east Europeans cannot pronounce the word market properly when they speak English.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/22/advertising-racism-meerkats

joe, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

to be fair to the guardian, they are the worst adverts in the world

caek, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Not when that Peugeot 308 advert exists they aren't

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-f-6drx3KQ

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Aargh all advertising executives must die!

Neil S, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

It is one of those irritatingly awful adverts that does the job. When trying to remember market comparison sites recently I remembered this monstrosity and forgot gocompare.com. Astonished to see some Cif commentators call it funny.

Not sure if it's racist.

Alba, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

the go compare advert is far far far worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_-9QFvhQWo

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

My curvy Colombian wife feels exactly the same way about the Old El Paso adv-

Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha ha. I will not forget gocompare.com in a hurry again.

Alba, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

(One of) the other Peter Joneses's adverts for moneysupermarket.com lags well behind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtsX6mFlyxs

Alba, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o-I_zsqiwg

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

confused.com horrible cutesy "we want to be your friend" ads are hateful too.

Neil S, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Dolmio would dectruple their sales if they just ran with the above

unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

disturbingly realistic.

As for Compare the Meerkat, racism is a-ok with me when compared to that "do you have a beard?" "do you like ice cream?" bawjaws in whatever advert that is.

Akon/Family (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

oh god yeah i really hate that guy.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

my blood pressure rises as soon as he comes on.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Just noticed that the technology section has a new correspondent whose name is Mercedes Bunz.

James Mitchell, Friday, 4 September 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

the day after the edition with the technology section, too

topman feature in today's guardian felt like a paid advertisement. bad.

thomp, Friday, 4 September 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/04/liz-jones-exmoor-files-dulverton

It's funny how this keeps going on about how her writing in the MoS, when the first I heard of her was when the Guardian Weekend magazine printed 41 columns of her fucking boring wedding preparations, which isn't mentioned in here.

j.o.n.a, Saturday, 5 September 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Why on earth would anyone upload adverts to youtube? Good grief.

\/*|_*/-\*|) (Pashmina), Saturday, 5 September 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I like that people do, it enabled me to prove there was an 80s drink called Bezique and win a crucial pub argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxTs0Xw-S_Q

Hi, Super Nintendo Chalmers! (onimo), Sunday, 6 September 2009 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link

is the guardian slightly retweaked g2 worse any worse than it used to be?

thomp, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 09:51 (fourteen years ago) link

This is one of the poorest, most phoned-in front section articles I've read in some time:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/sep/08/obama-healthcare-speech

The next weeks are also crucial on the Afghanistan front, as Obama ponders how many more troops to send. Here again he'll have a fight with his party's liberals, who don't seem to have given much thought to what would happen there if we reduce troop levels and the Taliban regain control of much of the country - or the country.

Much of the country - or the country - well, actually a majority of Americans polled say that the United States shouldn't be in Afghanistan at all. That is a somewhat more substantial constituency than "his party's liberals". Which makes Tomasky's amazing condescension that much more rich and velvety.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link

tracer "'yes we can' needs to become 'yes we are'" get on message here

tomasky really is kind of an annoying twat

thomp, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 10:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"'yes we can' needs to become 'yes we are'"

What does he intend that to even mean?? I puzzled over it for a good 4-5 seconds before flipping over to the five-page spread about short men in positions of power.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link


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