ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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— Sanitary Naptime (@SanitaryNaptime) December 2, 2020

look when keir starmer’s labour abstains on a bill that bill STAYS abstained

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/five-labour-lancaster-councillors-quit-party-protest-starmer-leadership?fbclid=IwAR2w9tU72rsmvnufHelaaxmi8Q84zuT4_xVD-P8HRBZY_liKuQ3ZqDQmjT0

3 in Kirklees, now 5 more councillors in Lancaster that have quit Labour over Keith's stupid voice.

Speaking of Keith, who remembers last year's Highland League fixture when Keith scored 5 times for Keith, in Keith's 11-0 win over Fort William? Keith FC are ultra-Keith, the only Keith, exuding Keithness that Keith Starmer can only envy. pic.twitter.com/FdiPJnWP2X

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) December 2, 2020

Wondering if he'll get an accidental Kiething in Hansard.

No opposition to this narrative.

We can borrow for thirty years at near enough zero per cent. https://t.co/NOPjcJU8dy

— Jo Michell (@JoMicheII) December 2, 2020

it's so fucking lame that Dudds talks like the main problem with New Labour was the tax-credits spending that at least temporarily lifted millions people out of poverty. Fucking soft-left my arse, more like soft-tories.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-travel/england-announces-new-quarantine-exemptions-for-high-value-business-travellers-idUKKBN28D2N8

literally one rule for the rich and one for the poor

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mayor-liverpool-joe-anderson-arrested-19399231

come head divvy? what? No your fingerprints will do just fine, mate.

Local politics, just like the good old days.

this is what regional devolution is all about!

tbf Joe Anderson looks so straight and honest, it's so hard to picture him involved in grand corruption and nigh on gangsterism!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoaWqtmXMAEYOAt?format=jpg&name=medium

this UK Goodfellas remake certainly lacks a bit of visual pizzazz

L-R: Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink

lol!

I don't remember being at that FAP.

only one beard and two speccy types, can't be a FAP

One on the right looks like he's taken his glasses off just before the photo was taken.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoaZYInW8AA_kbv?format=jpg&name=medium

L-R: Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink, Mr Pink

“Labour’s biggest trade union backer Unite has failed to make any donations to the party since Sir Keir Starmer was elected leader...”

under new management

Individual donations have dried up as well. No wonder they don’t want to give that racist property developer’s money back.

I made an individual donation last year as a benefits scum member of the party. You might be shocked to hear I wouldn't give them the steam off my piss now.

beyond the short term goal of appeasing a thousands of tory voting bigots in the north who need shoes labelling L-R, Starmer will be turning a lot of the younger voters who came to Labour because of Corbz away into politically homeless wilderness which could a much bigger problem for Labour's financial and electoral prospects going into the future.

I wonder how many of the bloated whales that abandoned Miliband/Corbz Labour for the Tories can be won back and at what price, not that Starmer nor the party has much of a rep left to protect.

Unite really not making any donations since April?

Excellent if true! I thought there would be structures that meant they were constantly donating, like a direct debit. But clearly they would right to withhold funding now.

re: giving bad people's money back -- I don't quite get this idea. Labour need the money and it's good to take things off bad people. So why not keep it?

The one reason for not doing that would be if the bad person wanted favours in exchange for the money. He probably does. But now he's been exposed as bad, it ought to be easy to refuse to give them.

He made sure no-one got his list of campaign donors until the leadership vote was finished, so it isn't like Starmer can take any moral high ground by returning any money.

I wonder how long the Labour Party can survive such a drastic dropping off in donations.

surprised at the pinefox's "the money doesn't care where it came from" stance

like it get that's true but if we can directly trace donations to islamophobes are we supposed to just ignore it because the notes are the same colour?

I realise the view is unorthodox, but as I say, I think it's logical, because - let's say we agree that person is bad - well, he is now £200k poorer. That seems a good thing.

well he grifted hundreds of thousands of members but I don't think a Starmer govt would do anything to upset the bent property developer lobby, especially racists like David Abrahams, so it would be money well spent.

All this Anderson/Hatton intrigue is a good excuse to dig out G. B. H. again. A lot of my presumably younger twitterers seem to lionise just about any old fucker who is "of the left". I draw the line at hideous wankers like Hatton, who apparently is the 72 year old who was arrested.

The one reason for not doing that would be if the bad person wanted favours in exchange for the money. He probably does. But now he's been exposed as bad, it ought to be easy to refuse to give them.

Donors on that level certainly expect favours in return and if lab takes the money and fails to come through on said favours, well, the donor won't donate again and the party'll get a rep for not following through (not that this would be a bad thing). So giving the money back would be a more credible gesture because the donator is not going to be a reliable source of income anyway.

I think it would be 'good optics' for them to announce that this entire donation was now going to be used to finance a response to the recent report on Labour Islamophobia.

The donor couldn't really complain about that.

could pay for a few more unconscious bias sessions with it as well, job sorted!

The donor couldn't really complain about that.

Of course he could. Not in the media - these things are never in public - but he could make it pretty clear that he wouldn't donate again, and assorted rich assholes would take note and avoid donating as well - and donations from asshole millionaires is what labour's after.

Alternatively, they could use the money as you suggest and fulfill whatever favours the guy is expecting anyway, in which case it would indeed be "good optics" and he wouldn't really care.

god GBH was good

Degsy was probably a twat but, y'know, so were his enemies

I oh know, but still can't stand the fucker!

he did a cheeky advert didn't he at some point, yeah fuck him

just seeing ppl lionising him as a socialist hero really gets my heckles.

I don't think there's any probably about him being a twat gbh, sorry, tbh.

to be fair there's always kneejerk twats on the left otherwise the SWP wouldn't exist

Property developer too.

yeah he's made a small fortune from property deals and is apparently under arrest on corruption and witness intimidation charges, so obv an establishment stitch-up lol!

god GBH was good

yes City Baby Attacked By Rats is fucking all time fuiud oh right sorry

lol

pvmic!

the sort of non-specific special school in G.B.H. is probably an element of it that is of it's era, this isn't a criticism. Last time I rewatched it I ended up watching Bleasdale interview where he talks about how he worked at a school for "deranged and demented children" or something like that! Like I say, not meant as a criticism, just more of an uncomfortable reflection on the era it came from.

Even a few years back there were a lot of generalist special schools. I used one or two for summer playschemes, this one place had an "escape-proof" playground set right in the middle of the school buildings, but we had one really lovely lad that was a master of escapes, had to keep an eye on him every second.

keir starmer, working his way through epstein's black book, raising funds

— Frank Sobotka (@cymrurouge) December 4, 2020