ah, https://flucamp.com/
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from £100 a day, 11-14 days. but you might die. 8)
― koogs, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
i know no one wants to hear this, but: when you have 7+ billion people and we all require a cocktail of vaccines every year to preemptively guard against varieties of biological enemies across the world that we may come in to contact with, then we have way too many fucking people on the earth. "gaia theory" is not something i have ever taken seriously at all, but there is something to the idea that the giant thing that we all live on is actively trying to ward us off
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
it's not the fact that we have vaccines, or that we're taking pre-emptive steps to protect ourselves against things that are hurting us. medicine has been a thing for a long time. it's more like the lengths that we've gone to, at this point. we are allergic to our own environment now
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
I'd say it's more accurate to observe that the vaccine cocktail is part of what made the 7 billion pop happen in the first place
― is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
always have been karl, we’re just getting (slightly) better at dealing with it (in some respects). this is good!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
xpost right
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
got it - more people is better
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
i know that's not what you mean, sorry.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Silby otm but also
then we have way too many fucking people on the earth.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
i was definitely suggesting eugenics as a strategy
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
runs in the family
so the key is for humanity to multiply as quickly as possible, to build up greater gene diversity so that when the 99.8% virus comes, more of us will survive
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
I wasn’t saying you were. It was a bit of a leap because these arguments always end up arguing that (unspecified) populations need to be smaller, and there are always bad faith actors happy to leap in to push that agenda. Just getting in ahead of that argument.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
the key is for humans to start emulating the virus
i didn't suggest eugenics, but if i would have kept going, i would have gone there. so you just went ahead a little bit to meet me there. hi!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
and if i didn't suggest it, someone else would have.
(interestingly, this is true, but only in a context like the present, where there are way too many humans around so that it's eventually inevitable that someone will say something catastrophically dumb)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
if there were only 10 people on the planet, maybe there would be a day that wasn't fucking terrible because there would be a chance that none of them would talk to each other
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
I don’t follow how covid or flu is evidence that the human population is too high (or too low).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
it's just right
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
Earth 2020: goldilocks
i'll take my dumb guy saying dumb things offline
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
fuck this perfect world
The best of all possible worlds, apparently.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
I have no opinion on whether the population is too high or too low or what. I just don’t follow how flu and covid are relevant to that question.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
MOTHER EARTH IS TIRED OF OUR SHIT is what i think km is trying to say
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
but frankly i think mother earth has better things to do than worry about us. we’re a blip
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
- bob marley
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/RaggettBrain.jpg
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
got it - more people is better― Karl Malone, Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:44 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:44 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this quickly becomes a complicated and woo-woo topic but i do tend to think that ecosystems are intelligent, that we over-estimate our ability to thrive on earth when our raw numbers are so swollen, that we aren't that different from deer, that we need predators (of us) in order for the ecosystem we live in to sustain itself, that death needs to be in balance with life, etc. i.e. you aren't the only one who thinks along these lines, karl, and it's frustrating and honestly a little bit shallow when people shout 'eugenecist' at you for expressing something like 'there are too many people.' like i don't actually think mass killing is bad but i sure think we can put a lot more effort into making birth control easy and convenient for both men and women!
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
i see you guys are having a moment
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
now that’s what i was trying to say!! thank you james redd
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
err.. "i don't actually think mass killing is good" lol
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
Lol, no problem, Tracer.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
sure map, sure
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
Too late, the Freudian slip hath spoken.
2xp
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
lol not even gonna put up that much of a fight about it
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
I have no opinion on whether the population is too high or too low or what.
There's an emotionally-appealing (ie, "it sounds right") argument that the increase in population has increased the number of pandemic-style viruses insofar as there is a larger, more varied population on Earth for viruses to mutate within, giving more space for multiple viruses to mutate concurrently and increasing/accelerating the likelihood that one of them will be pandemic-worthy.
― DJP, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
We come from Mother Nature so everything we do is perfectly natural, including matricide.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
my feeling is "humans are inherently bad and shouldn't exist but since we're here and can all feel pain, let's try to minimize extinction level events...unless they're funny"
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
the Fleshlight Massacre of 2021 will be here for you, Neanderthal
― DJP, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
It isn't that there are too many humans on earth but rather that there are too many humans on earth living the way that humans do. The same would be true if, for example, there were a particular species of turtle that spent all of its time emptying aerosol cans into the morning air.
But I fear that we may be straying from the topic at hand.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
Turtle waxing nest pas
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
a particular species of turtle that spent all of its time emptying aerosol cans into the morning air
this is one of the strangest euphemisms for "mitch mcconnell" that i've read, but i agree
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
i meant to add a fart joke in there, but whatever
the last hour of posts here really feel like oldskool ilx, right to the bit where I come in and contribute nothing but an uninteresting illegible and possibly false point.
― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
Needs more Jay-Z/Nas beef discussion
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
I see I didn't even have to say anything to be here.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
;)
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
oldskool ilx is returning, we are the virus
― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
*grabs throat, unable to speak*
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link