Autumn 2020: Is Everything Getting Dimmer or Is It Just Me?

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yeah I remember catching a great chunk of taht tv show when it was on was it Channel 4 in the early 80s.
I know taht Chris Bohn loved it so much he adopted the name Biba kopf from the name of teh main protagonist which he may still go by.
THink I tried to d/ld it a few years ago but couldn't get the subtitles to sync or something.

Stevolende, Thursday, 3 December 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link

Saw some of it but managed to miss most of it. I wonder what I was doing instead? Probably rehearsing with some band or something stupid.

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 December 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

i think it’s all here. the subs look all right apart from some formatting issues.

Fizzles, Thursday, 3 December 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

In the Françoise Hardy bio: she did a TV special with German schlager star Udo Jurgens, where the concept was they were dating. They allowed her to pick anyone as a guest, so she chose Ionesco, who proceeded to get sloshed on the occasion. The special never aired because there was a scene with them in bed (not Ionesco).

Hardy was also friends with Patrick Mondiano and played him a Stockhausen record, which caused him to collapse in laughter.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 4 December 2020 11:11 (three years ago) link

Really got to check that, thanks for keeping us with it.
I remembered our good Borges discussion upthread, but not particulars of this kick-off, totally jazzed by re-read---are the Professor Borges talks in here too?
Jorge Luis Borges - The Total Library Non-Fiction 1922-1986

500 pages worth of essays and (later in life, due to what seems like a mixture of further fame and blindness) transcried talks. The essays up to 1955 or so (pre-blindness) are a series of optical illusions. He has an incredible ability to convey the essence of a whatever he is reading or seeing (about a dozen film reviews here) in about 3/4 highly satisfying pages that also manage to display the sense that he has read about half a dozen books on that book or author (this could be another optical illusion but maybe if you spend all your life reading or writing that might be true, either that or he has good skim-reading ability). That's whether he is writing for a journal, the desk, or a woman's magazine. Throughout, we have a series of slightly longer essays that seem like 3/4 pages stitched together, as he talks about the translators of The Arabian Nights (v interesting discussion of Orientalism as a thing before Said?) Benjamin's essay on it gets far more hits than Borges and while there isn't a take on it per se that isn't fused with the books he discusses it feels a little unfair. I love his 20 pages on Dante, just different aspects of the book, on Icelandic Sagas, on Fitzgerald's Rubáiyát (this was a marvel, his account of Fitzgerald felt like a short story!), Flaubert, Gibbon, Coleridge, and first reads of Joyce, Woolf and Faulkner as being published for the first time - his reckoning with modernism and sharp judgment (the way he is so open to what Joyce does on Ulysses while at the same time struggling through Finnegans Wake, compare this to Woolf's dismissal based on snobbery and jealousy in her diaries), plus his Refutation of Time (which has won out in discussion of literature) over space is something to go back to. The range of reading on a level I have not seen since Auerbach's Mimesis (Auerbach ofc also published his own separate account of Dante) that feels like reading has taken place (unlike George Steiner lol, no name dropping). Both are as light and exhausting as they try to give as open a read as their faculties will allow them (at the edge!), and for the Borges there is no better demonstration of how a writer of fiction worth reading is always a reader first and foremost.

In the end its clear how I took Borges for granted too. I reckon Labyrinths is a possibly flawed collection. The power of the stories doesn't put the essays in perspective. Also brings to mind how people like Eco and Manguel really feel like bad copies of him. It can't be empahsized how much of a one-off Borges was.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, September 30, 2020

dow, Friday, 4 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

You know all those Poll threads on here: 'List our favourite book of 1922', etc?

Now I'm logged in to ILB I can't see them. Where are they?

the pinefox, Saturday, 5 December 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link

Strange, I can see them. The thread titles all begin with "wherein" if that helps with searching.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:16 (three years ago) link

I searched, and, I think, voted, but now I still can't see them on New Answers!

the pinefox, Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

Have you hidden ilb from site new answers? https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/CustomiseSiteNewPostsControllerServlet (link available under preferences)

ledge, Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

There is also a “hide polls” option iirc

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

I only look at ILB New Answers - hadn't ever occurred to me to look at whole site New Answers!

I don't think I've hidden polls but will check that.

the pinefox, Saturday, 5 December 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

An excerpt of Jack, the latest novel in Marilynne Robinson's Gilead series, quickly hooked me like good piano music, going back and forth through different keys, subthemes, shadings, narrative clarity and momentum, just emphatic enough, no overselling. Local library doesn't have it yet, so I've started with the first, Gilead, which continues the effect, and the narrator mentions that he often writes with the radio on, so maybe that's an influence, the flow of detail in and among shows, programming, stations, marking, coloring time and vice-versa (at one point mentions that during a maybe long-past dark period, he sat up 'til all stations were off the air).
So he's sitting there on the prairie, in his house, this old pastor who is disconcerted to realize that he's written "more than Saint Augustine," with not nearly the quality, and mainly every sermon he ever preached, now bagged up in the attic, fire hazards in this dry land, and he's always written all kinds of things and now he's writing a letter to his five-year-old son, to be read when he's gone, because he's dying, while still walking around, even feeling pretty good, considering. and he spent all his money on books, incl. the ones he won't live long enough to read, long before the kid's future mother walked into his church while he was preaching---now he's got the loves of his life, and he can't leave the kid anything much, except this letter.
Which, since he's a writin' fool, goes back and forth, from and to self-explanation and other possibly useful observations of human nature, adventures and other speculative memories of and with bis own father, grandfather, mother, neighbors, and their own lore--- also becoming a diary, in a way that just seems natural for this guy (also that it will go on for 242 hardback pages---happy reading, kid).

dow, Saturday, 5 December 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

Trying to decide what to start next— another Gail Scott novel, my friend Mark's latest book of poems, or a book that I'm supposed to review sometime before the year is up. I'm currently done teaching and have no grading for the next week, so I'm a bit...free up to start whatever. Might begin with my friend's book, since it's so short and I'll be able to finish it before the day is out.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

i’ve read a *lot* of garbage pop factual books this year, but one that isn’t garbage is Because Internet: Understanding How Language is Changing by Gretchen McCulloch. That’s doubly good, because it’s a subject that could be done *very badly* and glibly imo. But this is thoughtful, clear and exceptionally well annotated, and contains structured thinking and analysis. It’s slightly overfriendly in places for my taste but that works because of the subject matter.

anyway, in a year where i read a load of shite, this is... ok-to-good.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 December 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

no, it’s good. it’s christmas. enough with the parsimonious.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 December 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

Seeing with Fresh Eyes: Meaning, Space, Data, Truth - Edward Tufte, big fan of his earlier books on data visualisation, with amazing things like indonesian timetable representation etc, and this is also v good. but man i cannot quite get away from a nagging feeling 'you know, edward, your pages are kind of a hot mess to read?' and frankly seem to work against some of his statements on space. i'm surprised, because his wife and co-designer is Inge Druckrey, subject of this lovely short documentary on design.

also enough about your f'ing park already please.

Fizzles, Sunday, 13 December 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link

Read Mark Francis Johnson's '800 JKS,' an exercise in world-building poetry that will inevitably be slept upon by the majority, who can't stand poetry that challenges rather than confirms.

Also read Denise Riley's 'Selected Poems,' which mostly consists of her most famous book, 'Mop Mop Georgette,' and of course love her to pieces still.

Flipped around a bunch in Tom Raworth's collected poems.

Read a lovely pamphlet on literary influence, criticism, and death by Claudia La Rocco.

Finally, and perhaps most excitingly, I picked up a book I've been carrying around with me for almost a decade but could never access...but I had an intuition that the day would come when I could. And so, the other evening I began Taylor Brady's 'Microclimates,' which is a bizarre and majestic hybrid novel that treats each sentence as its own little climate, playing around with syntax, subject/object, and so on. Really amazing work.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 December 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

that sounds good, will add to my infinity pile (which as always i say 'i'll aim to make a good dent in it at christmas')

Fizzles, Sunday, 13 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

Yes to those and yr own latest recs., Fizzles. Thanks guys!

dow, Sunday, 13 December 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

Which of Edward Tufte's previous books is your favorite?

dow, Sunday, 13 December 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

I found a copy of Visual Explanations on a coffee table in a lobby when I was in uni, with a big COLLEGE REPUBLICANS sticker on the back of it. I contacted the woman whose name was written in it, and she never wrote back, so I kept it. Nice come-up, also my favorite.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link

I now only have 85 pages of THE LAND OF SPICES to read.

Oddly indulgent, very long description of a Catholic schoolgirls' school play for the priests. Unsure that the tone is as well judged as Kate O'Brien's admirers would assert.

the pinefox, Monday, 14 December 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

I finished Berlin Alexanderplatz last night. First, I must applaud the translator Michael Hofman for carrying this off so beautifully. The book succeeds just as much on its stylized tone and authorial voice as upon any interest generated by the plot and characters and it is obvious that the translator had to patiently invent an English near-analog to Döblin's highly idiosyncratic German, while conveying the essential tone and feel of the original. The loving care he took was very evident.

The Afterword quotes Musil to the effect that it is not an intellectual book, but full of interest, and I wholly agree. Döblin incorporates a great many ideas, religious, mythic, scientific, psychological, but they do not add up to anything coherent. They are jumbled together in a grab bag, just as they are experienced in life.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

NB: It was published in 1929, so we should soon see it making an appearance in the "Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novels of..." threads, assuming Daniel Rf perseveres that far.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

I read the previous translation about 25 years ago and loved it, I should investigate this one. I agree that the book is full of stuff that doesn't necessarily add up, but details are fuzzy at this point.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 14 December 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

Will have to check that. Recent publication of Kafka's prev, mentioned The Lost Writings shows Hoffman keeping up his standards w quite a range of material.

dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

So, I checked out three P.K. Dick novels from the library and on advice of ilxors started reading A Scanner Darkly. Right away, from the first three sentences I can tell PKD had started writing the book by just throwing out a vaguely 'promising' sentence off the top of his head, not having the slightest clue what story he would connect to it. All his books I've read seem to start this way, with the possible exception of Man in the High Castle.

He rambled around for a few pages, just riffing on the first sentence, until he darts sideways into a new riff, then another, until there's a tiny bit of solid ground established, barely enough to stand on. Then he builds out from there, but haphazardly. For example, early in the second chapter he starts riffing on the amazing 'scramble suit' worn by some cop named Fred. PKD tells me how the identity of the wearer of the suit becomes blur and their voice is filtered to be toneless, flat and mechanical, bereft of personality. Wow. Very imaginative stuff!

Then, just a few paragraphs later, PKD describes Fred (wearing the suit) and speaking to a Lions Club audience. But PKD has already forgotten about the toneless flat mechanical voice. He now has Fred giving a speech full of scripted dramatic pauses and changes of tone. These totally contradictory details are printed on fucking consecutive pages! Why? Because PKD apparently never went back and read what he wrote five minutes earlier, or gave it a second thought once it got blurted out on the page. It makes me want to slap him retroactively and shout "You're just blabbering complete nonsense, Phil! Give me a fucking break!"

This is not encouraging. If PKD couldn't be bothered to pay the slightest bit of attention to what he wrote, then why should I? Did he take his readers for such fools or did he just not give a damn at all?

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:40 (three years ago) link

you should stop!

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:43 (three years ago) link

i should also breathe while I'm at it, but I don't care for an author who carelessly doles out intellectual wedgies to his readers.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:46 (three years ago) link

my understanding is that he was drugged out of his mind most of the time? anyway i've read a couple and there is absolutely no prize at the end if you hate the first three sentences that much

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link

having read four of his books, I already have some idea about his utter lack of method and disregard for telling a coherent story, but the beginning of this one feels like wading through a swamp that's had trash dumped in it and I had to vent. I will take it as far as 35 or 40 pages to see if he sobered up enough to write something worth sticking with. But, damn, the start of this one reeks.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link

I think you have to accept a certain amount of, uh, chaos with Dick? He wrote so quickly (to stay alive, mainly), was battling psychosis and addiction. The vision comes through almost by osmosis or something. Or he'll drive you mad with his lack of discipline and you'll give up, I guess.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 08:38 (three years ago) link

I just read the first few pages and, like the first time, was instantly transported into the world of a paranoid and delusional drug addict, so consumed by his own nightmares as to be almost devoid of any fellow-feeling. And the bit about the scramble suit, yes it says the voice is 'toneless and artificial', then the guy gives a speech with pauses and where he raises and lowers his voice, I don't really see a contradiction there.

ledge, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 09:36 (three years ago) link

The Hardy autobio's getting a bit more of a chore as we head into the 70's - which is where my knowledge of her career ends - so I'm alternating it with The Penguin Book Of Japanese Short Stories. Opens with a predictably great Tanizaki story.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link

Peter Baker and Susan Glasser - The Man Who Ran Washington: The Life and Times of James A. Baker III
Elizabeth Bowen - The Last September
Ali Smith - Autumn

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link

Charles Dickens: A Life. wanna know who dickens had dinner with on the 26, 28, 29, 31st of december 184*? then this is the book for you. lots of details pulled in from the various sources, but not much of it interesting. and 600 pages long.

it's interesting when it's talking about and around the books (made me want to reread Dombey and Dorrit), but the rest of it not so much.

koogs, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link

(his poor wife though, and i've not got to the abandonment yet)

koogs, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link

and his poor kids!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:02 (three years ago) link

Only 10 pages or so of Kate O'Brien to go. I suppose what I feel now is that this book is sentimental about its two heroines, but in a deceptively formal and dignified way. They are - up to 10pp from the end - perhaps too perfect.

I'm touched, though, by the fate of Charlie, after he takes a purple / white / green ribbon from a suffragette to make a Votes for Women tie.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

OK. I got far enough in to A Scanner Darkly that PKD has settled on the story he wants to write and it is basically about the hard drug addict culture in 1970s California with a light dusting of sci-fi tropes. The point in the book where it gels is when he more or less sets aside the sci-fi content and the writing becomes almost documentary realism, drawn straight from his own life, I presume. I was near enough to the fringe of that scene in the 70s that the squalor of it feels depressingly familiar.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

Yes, for those of us who were around then, and any one else who can relate, it's something dark that still smells bad, always there, as soon as the book is opened---in your face, and his: he is testifyin' while still in the midst of it, bringing his talents and skills---incl., always, the documentary realism, to bear and to ground on his crackpot control-freak earthquakes and mudslides and fires of whatever origin, the California Kid locked in Manichean Civil War---although I think the talent won, more often than not, if you read enough of the fiction---though Lethem did him a stan disservice by pushing The Exegesis through the Library of America: that stuff should never be read out of context. Drug culture (inc. cops) were just part of the source material for his ongoing chronicles of illusion and delusion and all manner of fakery as part of consensual realties, incl. as they become known as such, sometimes---basically all the time, because this world is a bad copy of the real one, as became clearer during Watergate, as the False One stumbled (the real world is just a few years A.D.---as became even clearer when he beheld the Christian fish-symbol earring of the Dark-Haired Girl who delivered his pizza)
think you have to accept a certain amount of, uh, chaos with Dick? He wrote so quickly (to stay alive, mainly), was battling psychosis and addiction. The vision comes through almost by osmosis or something. Or he'll drive you mad with his lack of discipline and you'll give up, I guess.

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:38 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I just read the first few pages and, like the first time, was instantly transported into the world of a paranoid and delusional drug addict, so consumed by his own nightmares as to be almost devoid of any fellow-feeling. And the bit about the scramble suit, yes it says the voice is 'toneless and artificial', then the guy gives a speech with pauses and where he raises and lowers his voice, I don't really see a contradiction there.

― ledge, Tuesday, December 15 word

dow, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

But I do think some of this comes, to some cold-sweat degree, from/toward a place of/desire for fellow feeling--he has to tell us, testify, warn us, maybe to scold some of us who were/are also getting too far into something (and I think this is the one where he mentions having done permanent damage to I wanna say pancreas, via speed)

dow, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

I think my favourite Dick-adjacent thing is the Emmanuel Carrere sort of biography, autobiography, flight of fancy I Am Alive And You Are Dead'. I read it a while ago but have that residual sense of being close to Dick's consciousness for better and worse.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

did carrere do that book on the french/swiss man with the fake life? hang on...

Fizzles, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

ah yes here we go, The Adversary.

meant to read it when it came out in english but completely forgot until just now.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

I don't know that one, sounds interesting. I have his memoir about the tsunami in Sri Lanka in 2004. Girding myself to read it.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

(lol "bad Primo Levi" sez ever-reliable Guardian; just for that, I'll check it out)

Books in which PKD's talent and skillz def prevail incl the first volume of his collected short stories, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, The Man In The High Castle, Martian Time-Slip, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, also some of the "mainstream" novels, like Confessions of A Crap Artist. Mary and The Giant, and The Broken Bubble.

dow, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link

By the time lists come out, incl. mine, I'm usually pretty much ready to shrug and move on, but this one has a lot of appealing comments---https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/dec/06/the-best-books-of-2020-picked-by-our-acclaimed-guest-authors---incl. several mentions of Hamnet---is it good?

dow, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

PKD's birthday today. And Arthur C Clarke's.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

incl. several mentions of Hamnet---is it good?

I wasn't moved by it as much as the people in that article - my wife was - but it was pretty good, as historical fiction goes maybe slightly more fanciful than Wolf Hall. It had the best explanation that i've read of the famous 'second best bed' of shakespeare's will.

ledge, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link


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