Things you were shockingly old when you learned

now I have “Bad brains! These are the bad brains!” stuck in my head

lol

Maybe heavy lifting, but I guess as a poet, a single line doing that kind of work doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me.

Also, I often feel insane saying this, but I've never been able to get into Bad Brains-- whatever it is that other people hear hasn't clicked. And I grew up a punk kid!

lol table

see and I'm defensive (somewhat) of Bad Brains. well....I guess TO A POINT. their reign at the top was short like leprechauns

They burned bright but fast, like leprechauns.

you need to find your edge so you can lose your edge maaaan

^got that attitude

I always assumed the term "mug" used for a face came from the drinking vessel, and indeed it probably/possible does (old drinking mugs were apparently decorated with funny faces). And of course one verb definition of "to mug" is "to make a funny face." And *that* is where the term "mug shot" comes from. Not only were criminals getting their "mug" photographed, they were *also* notorious for making funny faces - mugging - to be less recognizable.

were they though

That Dr Jekyll's name was supposed to be pronounced "Jee-kill" instead of "Jek-ill".

https://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/jekyll

Letter to the Times, Nov. 28, 1980:

Sir,

Mr Roger Lancelyn Green (25 November) asks whether it is known how Robert Louis Stevenson intended the name of Dr Jekyll should be pronounced. Fortunately a reporter from the San Francisco Examiner, who interviewed Stevenson in his hotel bedroom in San Francisco on 7 June 1888, asked him that very question:

‘There has been considerable discussion, Mr Stevenson, as to the pronunciation or Dr Jekyll’s name. Which do you consider to be correct?’

Stevenson (described as propped up in bed ‘wearing a white woollen nightdress and a tired look’) replied: ‘By all means let the name be pronounced as though it spelt “Jee-kill”, not “Jek-ill”. Jekyll is a very good family name in England, and over there it is pronounced in the manner stated.’

Yours faithfully,

Ernest Mehew

I guess 'Hyde' is pronounced 'hide' like you'd expect, hope so

That's pretty interesting.

This article says that 'Jeck-ull' probably became standard because of the 1941 Spencer Tracy film version.

https://interestingliterature.com/2013/11/guest-blog-the-surprising-truth-behind-jekyll-and-hyde/

I've heard it pronounced Jee-kil before.

This changes everything

That's OK, it'll change back by tomorrow morning.

Dr Hee-kil and Mr Jive

they are a person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxxSIX3fmmo

“You’re putting me on,” etc.

that the uk has the third highest population in europe after russia (which i somehow don't think of as in europe given it's width) and germany.

it also has 11m more people in it than when i was in school and learnt these things.

all those immigrants innit

Most of Russia isn't in Europe but most of its population is.

> all those immigrants innit

dad, is that you?

At least one student a year will say 'look, it's Je/Kyll - like the French, I kill!' and think they've cracked the whole case wide open.

When the Roy=King discussion was going on upthread, I was thinking that Leroy then must be French for The King.

Violent J(ekyll)

Le roi is my mojo man

I thought Leroy was etymologically from The king. is it not then?

what ius the story on Dauphin, does it translate to dolp[hin?
I know there was a myth about France deriving fro Merovinigian beginnings and that being probably from a seamonster.
Alternative being they were derived from trojan extraction.
BUt is the first in line to the throne derived from the same aquatic mythos?

well no wonder they became a republic

Per wiki the origin is heraldic.

Dauphin of France originally Dauphin of Viennois (Dauphin de Viennois), was the title given to the heir apparent to the throne of France from 1350 to 1791 and 1824 to 1830. At first the heirs were granted the County of Viennois (Dauphiné) to rule, but eventually only the title was granted.

Guigues IV, Count of Vienne, had a dolphin on his coat of arms and was nicknamed le Dauphin. The title of Dauphin de Viennois descended in his family until 1349, when Humbert II sold his seigneury, called the Dauphiné, to King Philippe VI on condition that the heir of France assume the title of le Dauphin. The wife of the Dauphin was known as la Dauphine.

I thought that "window sash" meant the drapes. Because a sash is a long piece of cloth, right?

Whatever it is, it's always seemed like a painful thing for the narrator of A Visit from St. Nicholas to vomit out.

Handkerchief is a kerchief for the hand. I guess I didn't know the word kerchief til I was shockingly old and so then took even longer to reevaluate handkerchief.

An errant sash also caused the circumcision of Tristram Shandy.

Dusty Springfield was 5ft 3 always pictured her taller but she was shorter than Warren Mitchell.

that that one bee gee's name is pronounced 'morris'

!!

but some people call him Maurice

Do Americans pronounce it "mo-reese dancing"?

No, we rhyme Morris with Boris. Maurice rhymes with more fleece.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Frobertwimer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F06%2FLakinis-Juice-Live.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

MORE FLEECE!
Such a dirty haaaabit

and we're back to the juice

We're back at my theory that US pronunciation often shows a notable French influence.

right, but the causality is backwards. Britishes have a long and well-established tradition of anglicizing loanwords. RuhNAYSance. Don JOOan.

USians tend to pronounce French loanwords more like they sounded in French. We're not consistent in that (cf. lawnJOOray) but it is comparatively our habit.

British English has an insular tendency, driven by geography, economics, and (of course) longstanding tribal/national antipathy to the French.

You may remember there was a war a while ago

I quite like UK English in general and it sounds more Frenchified to my ears than NA English in some ways (queue, courgette, aubergine, autumn, post, telly, etc.), but 'garadge' drives me up the wall.

You mean GA-ridge? Not everyone says it that way. I think there’s probably two other UK pronunciations: ga-RARGE (which sounds comically posh) and GA-rarge, which is what I say most of the time I think.

I (a Canuck) pronounce it the Nestea80 and islandgirl way:

https://forvo.com/word/garage/#en

Garage d'or
How many puns in that?

I used to work on reception in a recording studio, and there was a session once with a fairly well-known US actor doing vocals on a dance track. He could NOT pronounce the line about "garage DJs" - every time it came out as ga-rarge. I think they had to rewrite the lyrics in the end.