thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

Her appeal is honestly mystifying to me

...I have a vague suspicion that it is somehow related to like musicals

I fucking hate musicals with a passion (worst music ever imo, by a country mile) and I fucking loathe every Taytay song I've ever heard, so you're on to something.

worse than metal?

According to, uh, me? Because, well…

(sorry, that was meant to be a playful troll)

I don't listen to her so please expand. What does her approach have to do with musicals?

Tbf, rob, everybody knows the two worst are country and rap, assuming you like every kind of music.

I mean, it is true that Taylor stans love a good narrative

I do like every kind of music: reggae AND dancehall

Idk, something about overly sentimental songs being performed in overly broad way, possibly in a way that suggests that she doesn't fully believe in the sentiment and the audience knows that, but she's gonna sell it anyway and they're gonna buy it?

Or maybe it's just I know a few people who are really into both, and I don't like either.

i've always gotten a kind of "disney" vibe from taylor, but i have no idea why or how to articulate that feeling.

nb, i have not heard the two recent albums and i enjoy several songs from disney movies

lol yes, the biggest Taylor stan I know is obsessed with Disney (and goes there for most adult vacations)

Disney songs tend to have better melodies. Not only is Taytay's music generic, it's also utterly hookless. And she can't sing for shit.

idk i think it's a little extravagant to argue she's not good at writing/singing pop songs. i just really don't like / relate to her persona - very Not For Me and that's ok.

there are plenty of people better-suited to defending taylor than i, but "hookless" isn't an adjective i'd use to describe her songwriting.

I honestly find her songs indistinctive and unmemorable on top of being, like, really fucking annoying. It's the sole silver lining as far as I'm concerned.

I think I lack the gene to process her music.

same tbh, although I certainly haven't given them the chance to grow on me

I would defend her, but this is a thread for hate

Thanks for respecting our safe space. :)

I appreciate your restraint sleeve. fwiw it's worth, I was going to post "more like the Odyssey to Folklore's Iliad" on the new thread but decided that was dickish

I guess that's worth nothing now that I've posted it

Don't be so hard on yourself.

haha that's solid

(the new one does not have my interest, but I like Folklore a lot)

"The Archer" made my tracks list!

The Archer was about Vangelis.

I like better music than all of you, so there.

Thank goodness for this thread! I was starting to feel like the only one.

I liked Lover,, but I did not get the excitement about folklore at all, and for the most part I don't get evermore either.

I think Taylor is capable of writing a concise, effective lyric when she's working in the framework of a pop song - something like "22" or "Blank Space," - but I think folklore lets her give into all her worst impulses lyrically. She doesn't have to fit her lyrics into the shorter lines of a pop song, so she has complete freedom to torture all of her metaphors to death.

I think she's not bad at writing about herself, especially when she can bring herself to be self-critical, as she is on Lover. I really hate her "storytelling," most of which reminds me of YA romance novels and movies starring Reese Witherspoon.

My favorite Taylor song is "The Archer," for what it's worth.

*opens thread*

ctrl+f sault

*leaves thread*

I bitched about them a wee bit on the EOY lists thread. I don't think their music is actively bad or even not good, just way overhyped.

To me seeing critics go nuts for Taylor Swift is kind of like seeing foodies flip out for Hershey's Chocolate.

Touché.

And which artist is the gourmet Madagascar 73.5% dark chocolate in your analogy?

the rockist one

Taytay stans are def rockist.

my biggest gripe with taytay is the amount of instant attention she commands from absolutely fucking everyone on ilm, her music varies between good and utterly repulsively dead-eyed brand exercises but can't she release something and not have it be an Event ffs

anyway a good takedown of Sault would be more daring & interesting

and lol I guess there's a few artists who create ILM waves whenever they do anything tbf

taytay commands instant attention from all corners, idk why ilm would be different.

I fucking hate musicals with a passion (worst music ever imo, by a country mile) and I fucking loathe every Taytay song I've ever heard, so you're on to something.

― pomenitul, Friday, December 11, 2020 2:22 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

correlation is not causation!!!!

xxp was gonna say

Can't argue with that tbh.

Tbf I only said it merits further investigation.

i can’t stand (most) modern musical theater either, if that’s what we’re talking about when we say “musicals”

she has a lot more in common with dear evan hansen than rodgers & hammerstein

Sometimes I wish you'd just let the secret Brad hate flow itt. Mostly you're just defending artists from our primal scream therapy.

xp

there's just so much music to hear and greedy taytay has released two really long albums in a year that she knows all the pop critics and stans are going to spend the next 2 weeks listening to! o taytay why must you feed and feed and feed

yes this is unfortunately true xxp

cosign that I would read a proper Brad hatchet-job, although they don't seem to go too far beyond 'eh not my thing'. joooin usssss