outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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USA death toll quietly surpasses 300,000...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

FDA has approved emergency use of Pfizer vaccine

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

officially

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

Shoot it into my veins

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

Hydroxychloroquine speedball, baby. The only way to go.

nickn, Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link

I being way too paranoid in worrying that Trump might seize doses made in the US but intended for other countries?

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link

I'm afraid he's gonna issue an EO saying that they can only be distributed via Happy Meals

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

for nerds:

On Monday, @HHSGov released the most detailed data about COVID-19 hospitalizations yet. We dug into the details here: https://t.co/MqWhlAMlhx

— The COVID Tracking Project (@COVID19Tracking) December 12, 2020

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 December 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

the part about COVID denialism that makes the least sense is how they account for the overwhelming explosion in hospitalizations. which is still the part worrying me the most about the next few months

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 December 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

I guess "the masks cause the hospitalizations" is the rationale

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 December 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

i'm not going to say "i know the secret truth", but i basically do. all i can say is this: follow the money. all this covid-19 is making hospitals a lot of money. know who else is a famous person with money? bill gates.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 December 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

his name is even BILL ffs

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 December 2020 02:27 (three years ago) link

it's ironic that all those medicine makers are still just commercial enterprises who will be sourcing their basic ingredients from the cheapest suppliers, i.e. China.

StanM, Sunday, 13 December 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

his name is even BILL ffs

true billheads know him as william henry gates III

that's right. there's three of him, at least

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 December 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

I know I shouldn’t be surprised at all, and on some level I’m probably not, but livid that this entire administration will be getting the vaccine before the vast majority of healthcare workers. These assholes directly caused the deaths of thousands and half of them still think it’s a hoax, but they push their fat asses to the front of the line for a vaccine they don’t actually believe in. I’m so angry.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

I know I shouldn’t be surprised at all, and on some level I’m probably not, but livid that this entire administration politicians in general will be getting the vaccine before the vast majority of healthcare workers. These assholes directly caused the deaths of thousands and half of them still think it’s a hoax, but they push their fat asses to the front of the line for a vaccine they don’t actually believe in. I’m so angry.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

ftfy

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

Thanks! Fair point too, but esp galling that the fucking COVID deniers will be among the first.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

Yeah, realized that might have seemed a little snarky, didn't mean it to be! I am also infuriated!

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

no matter how angry we are, let's not resort to bodyshaming. let's be better than that. just say they push their asses of equally beautiful shape and size to the front of the line.

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

Fair play, sorry for that. It’s been a hard day and hearing about the White House getting the vaccines set me off. My uncle unexpectedly passed away last night, not due to
COVID, and I’m definitely on a short fuse tonight.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link

Especially because the shit job this administration has done for months meant my aunt couldn’t even be with him.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

Just followed a Twitter thread because it dealt with death rates in NJ, where I live. They're pretty fucking staggering, but that's because we're the most densely populated state - there's basically nowhere to hide. Anyway, in the process I learned that Naomi Wolf, who people apparently continue to take seriously even after her publisher canceled her last book because it was so error-damaged, is one of these "anti-lockdown" assholes. I haven't read enough of her Twitter feed to determine whether she's anti-vax as well, though she's definitely enough of a brainwormed Boomer to have gone full batshit.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 December 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

condolences jvc

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 14 December 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

naomi wolf, noted expert about Ireland

Change Display Name: (stevie), Monday, 14 December 2020 08:59 (three years ago) link

Na O'Mi

mother should I build the walmart (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 December 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link

Perhaps the reason sensitive rtPCR tests can find viral shedding months after recovery:

Zhang et al 2020. SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome

Unlike HIV-1, the virus itself isn't driving this. Viral RNA gets translated by reverse transcriptase from LINE-1 elements, a endogenous genomic parasite that comprise 17% of the human genome (8-9 times more than the genes that code for humans). And one of my counterexamples against intelligent design.

A Like Supreme (Sanpaku), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

lots of doubt being cast on that study

k3vin k., Monday, 14 December 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

Wow whod’ve thunk Sanpaku would post a link to one (1) study about something and draw extravagant conclusions from it

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

sanpaku's "extravagant conclusion":

Perhaps the reason sensitive rtPCR tests can find viral shedding months after recovery:

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

TS;dr

Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

ouch

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Excellent thread here, placing in the context against other vaccines.

Many people are unaware that the COVID-19 vaccine has significantly more side effects than the flu vaccine. I hope to see more honest discussions regarding this.

Props to @Cat_Ho for her realistic, data-centric reporting of this issue. It's much needed.https://t.co/3dSkXQHdvn pic.twitter.com/gKD13elIyI

— Youyang Gu (@youyanggu) December 14, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 December 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

will take those over dying from COVID

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

I didn't find them to be too debilitating, but I was also secretly happy that I got to miss work that day

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

I already have most of those symptoms just from being 49 years old and being alive rn

mother should I build the walmart (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

Fatigue, pain, and vomiting? I call that "Tuesday." Come at me bro

mother should I build the walmart (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

honestly those stats are what i thought the flut shot stats were

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

I definitely had like a 101 - 102 fever, maybe some aches. but I didn't have Pfizer's, I had Moderna.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

Neanderthal apologies if this has been asked already, but do/did you ever find out if you got a vaccine or placebo?

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

And obv if you don't want to say nbd

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

not for sure, no - according to my paperwork, the only way they could tell me is if I'm removed from the study for health reasons or something.

I am guessing I did get the vaccine only because the immune reaction was rougher than any other vaccination I've ever received - I don't react to flu shots, or tetanus or any of them I've ever gotten. It's possible I got the placebo, but I doubt I've have had that reaction given my history.

really should take an antibody test to find out, though that doesn't technically prove it either! :)

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link

that doesn't technically prove it either! :)

yeah. in aggregate the testing is a valuable tool for health officials, but in regard to any one outcome of any one test, it's all "seen through a glass darkly".

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:54 (three years ago) link

Our local medical centre has got the (Pfizer) vaccine and has booked in 1000 over-80s for their two doses of vaccine. It sounds like an amazing takeup, there will be lots more to do before they can move on to the next group but a big first step.

kinder, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

those over 80s are going to be incorrigible when they've had their jabs.

koogs, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

where do you live, kinder?

DJI, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

I'm in the uk, not in London

kinder, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

NY Times front page headline

"Moderna Vaccine Prevents Severe Covid-19, Data Show"

Actual correct discussion of this (i.e. the data do not show that)

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/12/fda-releases-data-on-modernas-covid-vaccine-it-looks-good/
"The trial also had a pre-defined "severe" category of COVID-19. By November 7, there were 19 cases in the placebo group and none in those who received the vaccine. As of November 21, it had gone to 30 cases among the placebo group, but the mRNA-1273 group remained without any cases. It's unclear whether this was because the vaccine also limits the severity of infection or because there were so few cases in the vaccinated group that the odds of having a severe case were low."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

NYT journalist/headline writer caught in a not-understanding-statistics shocker.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link


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