Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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Violent J(ekyll)

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

Le roi is my mojo man

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

I thought Leroy was etymologically from The king. is it not then?

Stevolende, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

what ius the story on Dauphin, does it translate to dolp[hin?
I know there was a myth about France deriving fro Merovinigian beginnings and that being probably from a seamonster.
Alternative being they were derived from trojan extraction.
BUt is the first in line to the throne derived from the same aquatic mythos?

Stevolende, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

well no wonder they became a republic

Stevolende, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

Per wiki the origin is heraldic.

Dauphin of France originally Dauphin of Viennois (Dauphin de Viennois), was the title given to the heir apparent to the throne of France from 1350 to 1791 and 1824 to 1830. At first the heirs were granted the County of Viennois (Dauphiné) to rule, but eventually only the title was granted.

Guigues IV, Count of Vienne, had a dolphin on his coat of arms and was nicknamed le Dauphin. The title of Dauphin de Viennois descended in his family until 1349, when Humbert II sold his seigneury, called the Dauphiné, to King Philippe VI on condition that the heir of France assume the title of le Dauphin. The wife of the Dauphin was known as la Dauphine.

Dr. Dreidel (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

I thought that "window sash" meant the drapes. Because a sash is a long piece of cloth, right?

wasdnuos (abanana), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

Whatever it is, it's always seemed like a painful thing for the narrator of A Visit from St. Nicholas to vomit out.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

Handkerchief is a kerchief for the hand. I guess I didn't know the word kerchief til I was shockingly old and so then took even longer to reevaluate handkerchief.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

An errant sash also caused the circumcision of Tristram Shandy.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

Dusty Springfield was 5ft 3 always pictured her taller but she was shorter than Warren Mitchell.

Stevolende, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

that that one bee gee's name is pronounced 'morris'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

!!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

but some people call him Maurice

Number None, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

Do Americans pronounce it "mo-reese dancing"?

that heat (Matt #2), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

No, we rhyme Morris with Boris. Maurice rhymes with more fleece.

coup coup kajoo (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

and we're back to the juice

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

We're back at my theory that US pronunciation often shows a notable French influence.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

right, but the causality is backwards. Britishes have a long and well-established tradition of anglicizing loanwords. RuhNAYSance. Don JOOan.

USians tend to pronounce French loanwords more like they sounded in French. We're not consistent in that (cf. lawnJOOray) but it is comparatively our habit.

British English has an insular tendency, driven by geography, economics, and (of course) longstanding tribal/national antipathy to the French.

You may remember there was a war a while ago

coup coup kajoo (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

I quite like UK English in general and it sounds more Frenchified to my ears than NA English in some ways (queue, courgette, aubergine, autumn, post, telly, etc.), but 'garadge' drives me up the wall.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

You mean GA-ridge? Not everyone says it that way. I think there’s probably two other UK pronunciations: ga-RARGE (which sounds comically posh) and GA-rarge, which is what I say most of the time I think.

Alba, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

I (a Canuck) pronounce it the Nestea80 and islandgirl way:

https://forvo.com/word/garage/#en

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

Garage d'or
How many puns in that?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

I used to work on reception in a recording studio, and there was a session once with a fairly well-known US actor doing vocals on a dance track. He could NOT pronounce the line about "garage DJs" - every time it came out as ga-rarge. I think they had to rewrite the lyrics in the end.

that heat (Matt #2), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I’m an English accent that sounds stupidly posh, hence the lolz here:

What Matt Hancock thinks he hears Skepta play ... pic.twitter.com/3u6Y85CxHH

— Katie🤍 (@Katiejsmithx) December 22, 2020

Alba, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

in an

Alba, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

'GA-ridge' sounds like mangled French, which is harder to pull off when it's one of your main languages. Conversely, when I'm in France, I can't, for the life of me, pronounce 'tupperware' the French way except with a scathing smirk on my face. See also: 'speeder man' (spider man) and 'ee clood' (iCloud).

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

This is all highly irrational and unfair, of course. Prescriptivism can go fuck itself.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Eheh, some of us even pronounce it "speedairrr man" !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

lol, that is indeed a more accurate approximation.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Confession: I have a Dutch friend who pronounces WiFi as VeeFee and it makes me so happy. Like, I sometimes try to get her to say it just because it's so fun to hear

coup coup kajoo (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

We probably should be saying it "Why-fih" now that i think about it

Nhex, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

Oh no, you've just opened up a whole new 'gif pronunciation' can of worms.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Technically, the French pronunciation (wee-fee) is half correct and hence on par with the English one.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

My ears over-accomodate my Australian wife. She was recently asking me to buy a product, and I was all, "DORN? DARN? DORN?"

And she finally sighed and said, "Like the time of day when the sun rises!" DAWN. Which she had been saying correctly, but I'm so used to her rhotic accent, I just assumed...

Like the time she said she liked going into pawn stores and browsing around, and I was all O Really, eh? Heh Heh, and she was all What is wrong with you.

pplains, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

I've been known to pronounce it 'whiffy' on occasion but then I've also been known to be a total dumbass.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

xpost

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

I had never heard "Last Christmas" before, erm, last Christmas. When it was new I was following The Minutemen and The Meat Puppets, and Wham! was really not in my orbit at all. I also amazingly never encountered in in a supermarket or elsewhere in the years since, so Taylor Swift's 13 year old cover version was my first exposure to what is now apparently an overplayed holiday classic.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

Gertrude Jekyll pronounced it Jee-kill, I think. I had a conversation this summer with my neighbour about his wonderful Gertude Jekylls and we settled on Jee-kills.

I think UK English is becoming more frenchified. You don't hear people talking about Nessles chocolate much these days, and I think "Marsails" for Marseille has disappeared. We'll be saying Paree by 2050.

mahb, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

Pronouncing Racing Club - two English words - as Rrrra-seeeeeeeeng Cloob has been popular in the football/rugby world for a while

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

'Rrrraaaa! Sing! Club!' is a solid war cry.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Also pronouncing Milan (also an English word) as Mee-lahn when it comes to the football club but not the city.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Pay-Ess-Zhay for PSG (Paris St-Germain) is pretty common.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

you should hear how they pronounce it in Milan, TN

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

That's what the tourist board there has been telling me but I'm not biting

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

They do that in New Orleans too.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

There's also all of the Lima's in the US, Peru's as well. Hearing some cornpone person say "Yeah, I had to drive through Lye-Mah to get to the Cracker Barrel" makes me want to punch things, tbh.

The problem with VeeFee, as far as I'm concerned, is that it reminds me too much "fifi," as in "fifi pillow" or "fifi bag."

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

Fergie sang backup vocals on Martika's "Toy Soldiers"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

Zappa is Italian for 'hoe'.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link


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