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i mean self-hatred blah blah etc -- plus she's weaponised identity as cover for bigotry all her life -- but htf is she not openly and self-declaredly bisexual herself?

mark s, Monday, 14 December 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

She wrote a TV series about it! I do not get what she is about besides giggling and throwing poo, and she can't even seem to do that right these days.

Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 December 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

She had a quite a high profile affair with Charlotte Raven, wasnt it? When she was married to the American who also wrote for the Times iirc

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

From wikipedia

She wrote of the joys of having a "toyboy" in her Times "Weekend Review" column. Fellow NME journalist/author Paul Wellings wrote about their friendship in his book I'm A Journalist...Get Me Out of Here. She has written about her lesbian relationships, and declared that "I would never describe myself as 'heterosexual', 'straight' or anything else. Especially not 'bisexual' (it sounds like a sort of communal vehicle missing a mudguard). I like 'spontaneous' as a sexual description".
In 2009 she said that she was only attracted to girls in their 20s, and since she was now nearly 50, "I really don't want to be an old perv. So best leave it".

Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

quite staggering how a career in broadsheet media has basically turned her into a middle-aged man

imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

How to get ahead in Fleet Street.

Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

quite staggering how a career in broadsheet media has basically turned her into a middle-aged man


Sounds like you’re saying middle aged men are bad?

scampostiltskin (gyac), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

seems legit

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

a middle-aged man with a certain broadsheet-columnist cachet

imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

cocaine and ressentiment

imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

that's how i roll

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

wd read noodle vague's jeans-wearing thoughts on the culture wars

imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

i am too old for blue jeans, that's about as much as i know

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

tho i wonder if it's the jeans per se or the jeans/tucked-in shirt combo that reeks

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

have another line and think about what you've just said

imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

The latter definitely, there are jeans for everyone

scampostiltskin (gyac), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

i've not been mad about blue jeans for a long time tbf, prefer other colours

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

for the last 20 odd years I've wore little else other than .. ahem.. relaxed fit, black 501s, for the last decade usually 2nd hand from e-bay. The last ones I ordered they bloody well sent me w34 l32. I angrily messaged them: I wouldn't have even fitted into those 15 years ago (or 35 years ago if my name was Rod Liddle)

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

me neither calz, but yeah i'd go with black

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

Black fades so quickly though.

Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

til things get brighter i'm the man in grey

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

yeah that's been implicit

imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

that's the spectre that haunts my age yes

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

I've got a shirt like that too :(

Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

I have never wore a suit in my life, not even for court appearances or funerals. But I don't do leather jackets either. I remember once seeing Clive Anderson wearing a leather jacket and shades and thinking If I ever looked like that cunt I'd kill myself lol!

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

I wear jeans more or less daily. It's shorts that are to be avoided once one passes the age of...let's be extremely generous and say 25.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Damn my legs are the only part of me that is ripped, lol!

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

shorts are comfortable sometimes tho and tbf i'm not a fashion maven, only thinking about what i feel more or less of a twat in

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

I avoid shorts mainly because of a fear of getting bitten by a tick.

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

Left's photo reminds me there was a v mean-funny tumblr called "jeans and shoes" (or "jeans and sheuxs" or something)

loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

xp

oh yeah wouldn't wear them anywhere where that's a possibility

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

I think my ego has been so thoroughly reduced in the last decade I've barely even got a conception of sartorial embarrassment any more. I'm probably just one stage away from taking a dump in a showroom toilet at B+Q!

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

comfort is the main motivator of dress it's gotta be said. maybe the cringe of yr Clarksons is that it looks like they're going for something beyond that?

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

xps to rob don’t know the tumblr but do know the twitter

https://twitter.com/jeansandsheux

Look as modelled by LOTO here
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/NINTCHDBPICT000616596390.jpg

scampostiltskin (gyac), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpRzybXWMAUGn_q?format=jpg&name=small

omg an early Christmas gift!

calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

Hachette have now cancelled publishing Julie Burchill’s forthcoming book The Woke Trials. @boozeandfagz after telling her to shut down her twitter.

— Kerstin Rodgers (@MsMarmitelover) December 15, 2020

calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

HAHAHAHA

AND HEEEEEEEEERE COME THE THINKPIECES

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link

Helen Lewis: don't encourage the plebs to write a book, jEz. And also getting books published is one of the inalienable universal human rights for all.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

As hilarious as this is, you really have to wonder what Hachette thought they were getting into commissioning a book by Julie Burchill called "The Woke Trials"

Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

willing to bet JB can trade up to a better publishing deal with this

(possibly with an even less discerning publisher)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

well it must have been a business choice rather than artistic one, but jeez does her crap sell that much to make it worth the reputation damage?

calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

she was literally a millionaire off of PLATINUM LOGIC etc in the 80s

(which lol i bought and read: not good even as a pulp roman a clef abt joan jett if she'd signed to motown, the very evident inspiration)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

everything else merely sells p well within the UK media village i think

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

simon and schuster gave milo a million-dollar advance iirc!

then he started yanking the actually-paedos-are-good lever lol (also there was a terricially funny courtcase abt it where discovery included them trying to edit the actual manuscript) (JB in the old days was well known as diligent at filing copy that needed little editorial work if you ignored like fact-checking any of the opinions -- viz she can spell and write a good sentence and construct a workable argument)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

in conclusion publishers don't know what they're doing either and everything is a stupid lottery

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

But Milo, at the time, was riding high on the alt-right/alt-lite wave. I can see how someone would think publishing a book of his would be very profitable. Burchill's time has passed, surely? If you want a FrEe SpEeCh islamophobia outrage read there's so many others to choose from.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

Yes, I cannot imagine who - other than, as mark says, UK media types - would be interested in reading a bok (or anything) by Julie Burchill in 2020.

Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

small but noisy clan of middle-aged coked-up ressentiment-laced rightwards-liberal north londoners

imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

oh you did say the media types actually, my bad

imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link


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