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And no of course the anti woke army don't want to be censored by the law where's the fun in that?

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

wd you let yr servants read THE PLUMED SERPENT user imago? i put it to you --

https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-400/2051-1/112/5C6/58/%7B1125C658-37F5-4DF4-8D18-8CDF232B7C84%7DImg400.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

good cover or bad?

(good)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

Great cover, too good for that lummox

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

i guess he's like hemingway, the good lessons are so absorbed by one and all you don't even see them as the value of the writing any more and only repeatedly stumble over the bad stuff nowadays

(dhl's book on american lit is excellent, very funny and sharp on things ppl weren't seeing then -- he wd have been a good shitposter, longform fucked him up i think)

(the fontana modern master on him is p good tho very weirdly structured, the leavis book is AMAZINGLY TERRIBLE)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link

The non novels are fine, yes, tbf. Every bit of the novels I've read are like a self-conscious scholarship boy trying to show you how smart he is and not quite pulling it off

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

omg

imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

I read Lawrence's Apocalypse before I really understood what it was about and seem to remember it was bonkers, need to give it another try.

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

Lots of adult human females whinging in the mentions on that tweet, obvs.

scampopo (suzy), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

She has undeleted her twitter and posted a video of some IDF soldiers dancing

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Sea and Sardinia is great. I like a bunch of his poetry too. The novels are exhausting.

Burchill can fuck off.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

i think... i quite like some of dhl's novels. Like is perhaps the wrong word. But the conversation has made me want to revisit The Rainbow and Sons and Lovers, which istr i found intersting at the time.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

they were very fighty! (some of the fights song since won of course -- porn now compulsory -- but possibly not all!)

mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

those fights in full (except for the porn):
"i am slim and fey and sexy and ginger and working class and yet i am also way smarter than any of you so-called bloomsbury types who want to pet me and fuck me"

mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

(i guess that includes some of the porn)

mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

Lorks, looks like JB is going full Linehan.

lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 06:29 (three years ago) link

At least the awful, awful Linehan created works of genius before going full shithead

Change Display Name: (stevie), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link

JB, who is?

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 09:41 (three years ago) link

Julie Burchill, I’d guess.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

My jaw has just hit the floor.

The Spectator’s Christmas edition contains this poem by Julie Burchill about Priti Patel; the rhyming is criminal, the intent malevolent. pic.twitter.com/UmONzBwMQl

— Mic O’Holy Wright 🏳️‍🌈🌋🏴‍☠️ (@brokenbottleboy) December 28, 2020

Dan Worsley, Monday, 28 December 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

jesus, mary and jiminy fucking cricket!

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

BOAK

scampopo (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

I was expecting it to be awful, still wasn't at all prepared for that.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 December 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

i think this article that my phone wants me to read is also in the christmas one, surely a bumper issue of jfc no:

‘You can’t have opinions any more’: Rick Wakeman interviewed by Rod Liddle

kites aren't fun (NickB), Monday, 28 December 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

If I were Rick Wakeman, I'd be glad no-one was allowed opinions.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Rick does, in fact, express many of his opinions in said article.

why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Monday, 28 December 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say

it obviously has the effect of silencing kinds of speech that are accused of being silencing of the kinds of speech favoured by the telling it like it is crowd, but they seem to think this kind of preemptive self victimisation is an essential part of telling it like it is

Left, Monday, 28 December 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

this cancel culture thing we keep hearing about... how do we make it happen?

new variant (onimo), Monday, 28 December 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link

I fully intend to ask people like that if they’re whinging about cancellation in advance of some major plan to say something insensitive in public.

scampopo (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

it might have worked a treat for Julie. I don't know how publishing works but I presume she a got an advance on her book before it was cancelled. And now maybe she'll get another one! Or if not it's increased her profile much more than that execrable brexit play did. Lol I can remember when she was bigging up Patrick Marber as the greatest living UK playwright, around the time of Closer I think. For some ridiculous reason that play is on my bookshelf, my partner bought it at some point and when I was having a rubbish clear-out she wouldn't let me throw it in the burner where it belongs!

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

dark lols at me typing "cancer culture" and just spotting it before I hit submit btw

new variant (onimo), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

The problem I had with Closer was that every character was such an unbearable self-absorbed twat that it was hard to care about any of them, not surprised that JB identifies with it.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link

^^

nailed it!

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

xxp

your typing/editing skills are still much better than mine, Onimo. I miss out words all the time and often even if I check before I post I mentally add them when they aren't there!

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

one dialogue segment of Closer that Julie highlighted as classic playwright greatness was some corny as fuck line about how the human heart looks like a clenched fist... (´*`)

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

He was always good on "Knowing Me, Knowing You" though.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

true yeah.. and also as the dim-witted reporter Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan on the day today!

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

Very much so!

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

Only saw it once, but iirc this was the last of Marber being funny as a writer or performer: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cbyjp

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say

It was already mainstream in the 80s when I was a teen, eg media mockery of the "loony left", the GLC giving grants to black lesbian pottery groups, schoolchildren being made to sing Baa-Baa Green Sheep, "You can't call them 'manholes' now, you have to say 'person holes'", "right-on" alternative comedians forcing Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson off the air. Same old shit you hear today, and I'm sure older posters can give earlier examples.

mahb, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 08:44 (three years ago) link

"These days you get arrested for humming a Gracie Fields ditty... "

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link

Did I @harry_m_h? Give referenced direct quotes, please. I think you may be mixing me up with the left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'. https://t.co/sPX7vCzFcq

— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) January 5, 2021

had a chortle at "left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'" but as Mark S posted recently, he's completely correct about them being the top cranks for Dr Wakefield.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 09:56 (three years ago) link

Aa proof that my dad is not reading my posts on ILX, he has bought me a subscription to Private Eye for Xmas, so I will be able to report what is in in through 2021 I suppose.

To start with: The Craig Brown parody in the bumper Xmas issue was a fairly nasty but not that well-done Peter Hitchens piss-take.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 11:41 (three years ago) link

the MD column is excellent though, and acknowledges that the Eye got it wrong on MMR

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

Craig Brown has always been shit tbfttl

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

Same goes for the ex-Scotland manager of the same name.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

I remember reading a whole book of Craig Brown and it was all like this, yes. The parodies in Viz (Tony Parsehole etc.) are much better.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

CUNT

Just to save people asking me the same question, yes, I think there is a direct equivalence - moral and practical - between someone like Trump and someone like McDonnell. And I think acknowledging that honestly is an important part of how we move forward now.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) January 7, 2021

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link

someone ought to take his other eye out, he only sees up his own arse anyway.

calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

Just to save people asking me the question, yes, I think there is a direct equivalence - moral and practical - between someone like Trump and someone like Dan Hodges.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link


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