all the posthumous Scott Miller stuff does feel like a bit of a cash-in, but on the other hand, from what I've seen, his widow absolutely feels like he stiffed her + their daughter by tapping out, and is trying to get back something. regardless of whether this is a healthy attitude towards suicide (my opinion is: it's kind of her business), there's certainly more than an element of needing the cash in that case, even if it isn't the art Miller himself would have wanted to release. he probably has some take on the Kafka/Brod thing somewhere in his extensive published readers' q&a website tbh
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link
*daughters plural iirc
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
I agree with all you've said about Miller, and it's a very painful situation, but I don't think it does his posthumous reputation any good if young people hear about his work, go to stream it and the first thing they encounter is a terrible sounding rehearsal or weak cover recorded in a bar.
Scott did in fact say that one reason why he stopped recording in 2000 was in order to prevent his work from getting diluted by masses of substandard releases. He used Frank Zappa's later career as an example.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
well surely that situation would be solved if everyone realised how good his existing albums were and bought them all, but there's not even a Bandcamp
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
if there was ever a polar opposite to this thread (boost unhyped releases) then Interbabe Concern and Attractive Nuisance would be just about the first two things I'd mention
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
Play Bobby Dylan, play Murder Most FoulYou're still playing it, it takes round an hour― loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:09 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:09 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
this is my absolute favorite very specific subgenre of joke (=joke complains about something, often the joke itself, being too long) so I thank you
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
make a polar opposite thread!!!
― Left, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link
OK I'm gonna need a track ref to back up this seemingly very-notm comparison, if you're right then maybe I was listening wrong
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:04 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hrJT6SUYX0
????? pretty sure this isn't an instance of hannett iciness but it's certainly made by a group that loves esg
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
every description of sault itt has made me feel like i'm listening to a different band though
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link
I have yet to hear them but I'm gonna be doing a lot of 2020 listening in the next month
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link
I get much stronger ESG vibes from last year's albums than these new ones.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link
i agree with that but my example still stands
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link
Oooh interesting
It sounds NOTHING like ESG to me (except the bass tone) but I see how it might sound like that to another
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
It lacks the dramatic production and "brutal exposure of the individual" of ESG-- this is based on a cyclical drum loop
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
But: thank you for clarifying and I understand your interpretation, even if I don't myself agree with it!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:27 (three years ago) link
once again i am like... hm???? but ok
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link
also, directed to other posters itt: i do not find them didactic
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
For the Sault haters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzbAWmcnR_E
― Soundslike, Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link
The first couple Sault albums had more shouty chants and nursery rhyme-like hooks. I think that's where the post-punk comparisons came in, and they've more or less left that mode behind.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
Having listened to all four at this point it's definitely Black Is > Rise >>>>> 5/7 for me.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
they've more or less left that mode behind
More or less, but like "Free" still feels pretty Tom Tom Club to me.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
Which is to say, their influences are wides and are present to greater or lesser degrees on the different albums, but they're all there.
yes and i love the way they make them coexist with each other naturally, like i can get tom tom club from part of one track and imperial-era quincy jokes from another. particularly thinking of "strong" with that latter description
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtxdv_SVvSY
like if this is record collection or year-end list music... i like these record collections better than that of most critics!!!! these people like the rotary connection and jam/lewis
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
Less hype more dis plz.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
lol once again sorry
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link
👹
― pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
Sault is ruining the negative thread by bringing positivity (and being great). Resistance is futile!
(But really, there is almost literally no "hype" around them. No PR, no ads, almost no reviews in major outlets, and limited (but high-ranked, when included at all) End-Of-Year recognition. They're the un-hyped real deal.)
― Soundslike, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
i'm sure this isn't hyped enough to really qualify for this thread at all but thanks to the 77 nominations playlist i have now heard dj sabrina the teenage dj and this happens so infrequently i had to record it here: i hated it so much
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link
i tried to listen to the album and there were a few cool moments before it became completely forgettable so i didnt make it anywhere near close to its 3 hour runtime
― ufo, Friday, 22 January 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link
hahah I’m into it
― brimstead, Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link
I did not object to it when it initially came up in tracks shuffle, but I tired of it quickly
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:29 (three years ago) link
just threw it on now and, I'm guessing this is extreme pomo irony shit? I do like their name
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link
It's post-post-irony iirc.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link
Fwiw it's so utterly not my thing at all that I couldn't even hate it, it just made me feel old.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link
mostly it just sounds AI-generated to me
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link
and not in a fun way
it seems sincere but knowingly ridiculous to me. i didn't care for most of the album but the first track "next to me" is quite cool
― ufo, Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. 3h, 5h, 10h, does it even matter?
xp
― pomenitul, Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link
it just like decent filter house / future funk ish to me?
― brimstead, Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link
sounds like
it sounds decent on first listen but there's no reason this should be three hours long. amazing dj name though
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 23 January 2021 04:49 (three years ago) link
Great track titles, too
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Saturday, 23 January 2021 05:04 (three years ago) link
Pretty good mix: https://thefandomentals.com/fandomentals-guest-playlist-dj-sabrina-the-teenage-dj/
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Saturday, 23 January 2021 08:39 (three years ago) link
Totally forgot to vote. Jfc.
― The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Sunday, 24 January 2021 00:17 (three years ago) link
Harry Styles - very mediocre music, getting a pass because he wears sequins and winks at the camera when the inference of bisexuality comes up.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 17 April 2022 07:36 (two years ago) link
I had never heard his stuff… my sister said she loved his new song, I listened to it and was like – “??”
― begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link
imo muna are extremely corny
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
definitely not the first person to ever have this take, but: MORE LIKE BEYAWNCÉ AMIRITE?
i'm an old school destiny's child hater tho. always been a firm pass. never had any tunes. ever. can definitely think of songs i know, but given the choice, i'd rather listen to anything else. cheers.
― "Why is the voice of reason treated as the unreliable narrator?", asked (Austin), Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
I'd have given her points for calling the album Renaissancé.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link