outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

it didn’t work that way in my experience. the fever came and went of its own accord. acetominophen worked as pain relief (to an extent) but the fever would disappear and come back multiple times a day. usually worst in the evenings actually (after having had a whole day of continuous pain relief)

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:05 PM bookmarkflaglink

this was the exact same thing w/ my friend. shew as still getting elevated temps a month later, and then an hour later, normal again.

At this point, I actually believe that the government is in the business of trying to kill its citizenry.

Trump saw the pandemic as something he couldn't solve and that would reflect badly on him and that he couldn't profit from, so he was not interested in it and he tried to deflect from it and embraced any option that might have seemed to any idiot to have made it go away with the least effort on his part as possible. "Herd immunity sure will that that get rid of it then good." They're not out to kill the citizenry they just don't give a shit if they live or die, which is equally as bad.

demand that our government support its citizenry with all of their tax dollars.

stimulus printer go brrr

the economy is people

Stevie otm

Elections have consequences

Also, tho, pandemics have consequences. If he'd handled this with even the remotest semblance of competence he'd still be president I reckon. But it revealed his absolute lack of capability, empathy or concern over the citizens he was supposed to serve.

And yet, having revealed all these deficiencies, he still got more millions more votes in 2020 than in 2016. It is enough to make me think that a very large percentage of American citizens are equally incapable of empathy or concern for anyone not in their small circle of acquaintance.

^^ I think that's exactly it. Somehow roughly 40% of this country absolutely does not give a fuck about others and, rather than feeling even mild embarrassment for it, they loudly embrace it, shout it from the rooftops, and actively shame anyone who does express empathy for others as weak or pathetic. It's infuriating to see this reinforced on a near daily basis.

you don't have to be a conservative to believe in the myth of "personal responsibility", that our lot in life happens to us purely because of actions we took and nothing outside or nefarious. so their view is "what could Trump have done about COVID", which is nonsense, but so are they

the myth of "personal responsibility", or alternatively the story of the Three Little Pigs. Just build your house out of bricks** and you're proof against misfortune.

**please note: bricks can only be inherited

Related to the whole, "oh, c'mon, no one could possibly ever be that outraged on behalf of injustice done to someone they've never met before, so these protestors obviously have to be getting compensated by some billionaire" line of thinking re: blm.

See my reference to Reagan's stupid line about the government.

And yet, having revealed all these deficiencies, he still got more millions more votes in 2020 than in 2016. It is enough to make me think that a very large percentage of American citizens are equally incapable of empathy or concern for anyone not in their small circle of acquaintance.

To be fair, at least 75% of conservative-leaning voters in any country would vote for their party if a festering, maggot-ridden goat cadaver had somehow won the nomination. The rest, yes it's like you say.

many are saying it was the most well-oiled machine in the history, that has ever been seen

Officials in multiple states said they were alerted late Wednesday that their second shipments of Pfizer-BioNTech’s vaccine next week had been reduced, sparking widespread confusion and spurring the company’s CEO to put out a statement saying it had millions more doses than were being distributed.

The changes prompted concern in health departments across the country about whether Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration’s vaccine accelerator, was capable of distributing doses quickly enough to meet the target of delivering first shots to 20 million people by year’s end. A senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal plans, said the revised estimates for next week were the result of states requesting an expedited timeline for locking in future shipments — from Friday to Tuesday — leaving less time for federal authorities to inspect and clear available supply.

But Pfizer released a statement on Thursday that seemed at odds with that explanation, saying the company faced no production issues and had more doses available than were being distributed.

“We have millions more doses sitting in our warehouse but, as of now, we have not received any shipment instructions for additional doses,” the statement read.

A total of 2.9 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was cleared for shipment this week, and 5.9 million doses of Moderna’s regimen are poised to go out next week if the vaccine is authorized, as expected. That will be on top of additional supply from Pfizer, which Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Wednesday would amount to 2 million doses next week.

That represents a sharp drop-off from what states were expecting, according to health officials in several states. At least three states received notice from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday informing them of the shortfall, forcing last-minute changes to vaccine distribution plans for next week. Some places were intending to use the second shipment from Pfizer to begin vaccinating residents of long-term care facilities, officials said, creating dilemmas about whether to go ahead with those plans or to finish inoculating health-care providers on the front lines of the intensifying pandemic.

Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D) said anticipated shipments to the state in the next two weeks had been cut roughly in half. The uncertainty was even more pronounced in Florida, where Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said new shipments from Pfizer were “on hold,” as officials in his administration reported their expected allocation disappearing entirely in Tiberius, the online tracking system the Trump administration is using to coordinate with the states. Fred Piccolo Jr., a spokesman for DeSantis, said the numbers had come back online by Thursday but had been reduced significantly.

“It’s 40 percent less than we were originally thinking,” Washington State Health Secretary John Wiesman said in an interview on Thursday. “We thought we were getting 74,100 and now we are planning for 44,850 doses.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/17/pfizer-vaccine-supply-states/

much less important, but i can't fucking BELIEVE we have to formally refer to an "Operation Warp Speed" for the rest of our lives, jfc

The uncertainty was even more pronounced in Florida, where Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said new shipments from Pfizer were “on hold,” as officials in his administration reported their expected allocation disappearing entirely in Tiberius, the online tracking system the Trump administration is using to coordinate with the states. Fred Piccolo Jr., a spokesman for DeSantis, said the numbers had come back online by Thursday but had been reduced significantly.

there must have been so many suggest bans on the Tiberius forum that day

i am so tired of my state rn

Warp Speed is on hold in Tiberius?

Haaaaaaaaaaa.

Belgian government official leaked the vaccine prices per dose, wasn't supposed to do that, deleted the tweet real quick but the info got out. it's the screenshot of the tweet with the table (second column is price/dose, first one is the manufacturer, astra zeneca, johnson&johnson etc) here:

https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/algemeen/de-bleeker-legt-grote-prijsverschillen-tussen-vaccins-bloot/10272703.html

note: € vs $ and pfizer requires two doses I believe

Speaking of Warp Speed... what's gonna happen to the SPACE FORCE when Trump leaves office?

those prices leaking could be a very big deal apparently, they were confidential between the EU and the manufacturers

pew pew

Sorry Andy, Space Force got renewed for season 2 so it's not going away that soon.

prison... is a bit much, but throwing the book at people like this is satisfying to see tbh

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/gwinnett-county/gwinnett-teen-sentenced-months-prison-breaking-cayman-islands-quarantine/LRMB4F7TVJDVZMXR3WDBZIBEM4/

Mack went to the Caribbean with her boyfriend, who is a Cayman Islands native, on Nov. 27. Ramgeet is a professional jet ski racer.

did not know that was a job tbh

Probably one of those where the job title is lots better than the pay. I wonder if it's on his passport.

Occupation: Jet ski racer

"He noted that Ramgeet is a professional jet skier like Mack’s father."

Daddy issues.

The Cayman Compass newspaper reported that Judge Roger Chapple said during Tuesday’s sentencing that the decision to violate safety measures was born of “selfishness and arrogance,” adding in its report that Mack spent seven hours out in public without a face mask or social distancing.

“This was entirely deliberate and planned, as evidenced by her desire to switch her wristband the day before to a looser one that she was then able to remove,” he was quoted as saying, referring to the electronic tracking device.

Hughes said the sentence is the first of its kind, adding that Mack’s family is concerned: “They’re worried for her because she’s in prison in a foreign country on her own. While this is something she brought on herself, it’s very distressing for her.”

She refused to quarantine and they've put them in enforced quarantine. A super rare case where prison seems appropriate!
You may also notice a oh-so-subtle whiff of xenophobia and racism going on there...

All I can think of is Steve Shasta, professional wakeboarder

The UK can beat that for stupidity:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-55310647

xp lol

The new UK strain is bad news:

European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control: Threat Assessment Brief: Rapid increase of a SARS-CoV-2 variant with multiple spike protein mutations observed in the United Kingdom

Over the last few weeks, the United Kingdom (UK) has faced a rapid increase in COVID-19 cases in South East England, leading to enhanced epidemiological and virological investigations. Analysis of viral genome sequence data identified a large proportion of cases belonged to a new single phylogenetic cluster. The new variant is defined by multiple spike protein mutations (deletion 69-70, deletion 144, N501Y, A570D, D614G, P681H, T716I, S982A, D1118H) present as well as mutations in other genomic regions. While it is known and expected that viruses constantly change through mutation leading to the emergence of new variants, preliminary analysis in the UK suggests that this variant is significantly more transmissible than previously circulating variants, with an estimated potential to increase the reproductive number (R) by 0.4 or greater with an estimated increased transmissibility of up to 70%.

estimated potential to increase the reproductive number (R) by 0.4 or greater

I understand this is an estimate, but I don't like the sound of that "or greater".

So far, Germany, France, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium and Austria have banned air travel from the UK due to the new strain. UK health secretary Matt Hancock is calling it, "out of control".

The German health minister Jens Spahn asserted the vaccines would remain effective against the new strain. We can hope.

"or greater" up to 0.93
https://khub.net/documents/135939561/338928724/SARS-CoV-2+variant+under+investigation%2C+meeting+minutes.pdf/962e866b-161f-2fd5-1030-32b6ab467896?t=1608470511452

As frightening as excerpted quotes from minutes of a highly technical and non-peer-reviewed meeting are, it might be more useful to read something like the NYT coverage of this https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/20/health/coronavirus-britain-variant.html

experts are all over the place on this fwiw. some buy it some don’t

Don’t worry we’ve got posters

no scares intended by my post, it was a reference to my 0.93 figure.

This is a terrible idea and he's obviously just trolling but I sympathize with his vindictive rage on some level:

https://www.dw.com/en/anti-vaxxers-should-forgo-ventilators-german-doctor-says/a-55996805

No he’s right

really wish people would not say that stuff publicly because morally while I agree it will obviously be we fly and just gives ammo to the sanctimonious idiots who will delight in dunking on this

It's a mistake from a PR perspective, no doubt about it, but it's hard to argue with the anger of those who toil on the front line (admittedly, this guy is not among them):

"I urgently recommend that these alarmists go to the nearest hospital and present their conspiracy theories to the doctors and nurses who have just come from the overcrowded intensive care unit completely exhausted," he said.

well, just as well I had already given up on th eidea of being in london over Xmas.
THis doesn't sound great.
First tiime I haven't been in decades.
NOrmally gives me a chance to pick up fabric and ht FOPP and Rough Trade and stuff.
So going to stay around here and make stuff or something.

it will obviously be we fly

lol... “it will obviously not fly”

I thought it was new slang

A good summary of what we know about the new strain:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/mutant-coronavirus-united-kingdom-sets-alarms-its-importance-remains-unclear

Jesus is going to be born in checks notes 4 days. Let's see what he says first?

The Vatican has declared it “morally acceptable” for Roman Catholics to receive COVID-19 vaccines that were developed based on research that used fetal tissue from abortions. https://t.co/RYk9jnUYTD

— The Associated Press (@AP) December 21, 2020