Steve McQueen's Small Axe series of films for the bbc

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Oh no, the accent/code switching throughout was very definitely intentional, and was really striking in its effect.

Love your posts upthread, btw, so evocative.

emil.y, Sunday, 20 December 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

thank you! this movie really affected me. or is it a movie? i was thinking about that. to get a movie financed for a cinematic release it would need a more structured script. i don’t think he could have done it. the only way is to make it a TV show. it lives in this inbetween space. i really would love to see these shots - and this soundtrack - in a movie theatre though tbrr

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 December 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

the format presumably gave him the freedom to make lovers rock the correct length

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

has a movie under 70 mins gotten major distribution in the last idk 50 years? maybe a couple kids movies

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Cumulatively, despite a couple lags, the series is my favorite moment of ci-ne-mah this year. McQueen loves music and uses it so well, for example the use of Al Green's Bee Gees cover in Red White and Blue

I'd no idea Imagination's Leee John was best mates with LeroyLogan.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

has a movie under 70 mins gotten major distribution in the last idk 50 years? maybe a couple kids movies

― stylish but illegal (Simon H)

aren't a couple of Hong films in the 70-minute range?

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

FINALLY watched lover's rock
loved this so so much
balm for my bruised soul

H in Addis, Saturday, 9 January 2021 09:38 (three years ago) link

Courttia Newland who wrote the Lover's Rock screenplay has an amazing novel out this week: A RIVER CALLED TIME. Everyone, get it!

scampopo (suzy), Saturday, 9 January 2021 09:47 (three years ago) link

A friend who knows me too well told me there'd be a musical bit in Lover's Rock that I'd love; as soon as "Kung Fu Fighting" started up, I knew that was what he meant. Not quite as ecstatic as Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose in BlacKkKlansman, but pretty close.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

Reminded me of another song I used to love and that I didn't have saved on my hard drive, an oversight I'll correct: Eddie Holman's "Hey There Lonely Girl."

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

I loved the Kung Fu Fighting bit, and I loved that it kind of exploded my personal cliches around that song - that it's a song for lame white dads to dance to in the 80s, or for ironic hipsters to dance to anytime after that, with the unspoken (racist) assumption that those ironic hipsters were white. Now - all of that can be true, but those milieux can coexist with black Londoners also loving it, and being funny with each other about it, all at the same time.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

and any number of other sorts of people, in various eras, getting into it! KFF is a funny song. It's basically about a meme. Everybody was kung-fu fighting. And then the song kind of becomes a meme itself, something to mimic and reproduce in your own context - your friends, your living room, etc.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

I loved how they immediately went into their ritualistic dance moves when the song struck up (looking deadly serious and simultaneously laughing at themselves). It's a real I-was-so-much-older-then song for me: didn't like it as a kid, just an annoying novelty, and then, in the mid-'80s, when I had cause to start re-listening to a bunch of stuff from that era, it suddenly sounded great. I understand why someone might recoil from the song, but I like your post above.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

Of the first three, I liked Red, White and Blue the best. Great performance from John Boyega. "Tired of Being Alone" was cut a little short, but Green's "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart" cover was used really well.

There was a song in Lover's Rock I can't identify--I've checked links and playlists, and I just can't locate it. The chorus goes "Tell me what you think of me, baby."

clemenza, Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

timestamp?

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

I don't know what that means...Is that like a Tunefind site? I checked there without luck. Maybe the title has no connection to the chorus and I keep missing it.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

If you mean how far into the episode, just past the halfway mark--right after "Silly Games."

clemenza, Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

That's what I meant :)

The ending of Red, White & Blue was frustrating to me in the context of Mangrove having resolved the immediate case, and then captioned to note that dude continued to suffer police harassment until a big compo over a decade later. When they mentioned "Leee" having been on TOTP, I'd looked to see if it was Leee John and determined this was a true story too.

(Turns out that Leroy also continued to suffer (internal) police harassment for decades, eventually getting a big compo. So you can see why they'd not give the same resolution, I was just left hanging in the moment.)

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ynHFy1fIDE

koogs, Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link

sic -- sorry, I'm often slow when it comes to tech jargon; I realized what you meant a minute later.

Thank you! That's it. Example of what I mean: it's nowhere to be found on this Spotify playlist.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3d7NxwDUZkz31W06TiN4AH

Love it--I'd never heard it before.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

it's mentioned on imdb here - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10551102/soundtrack

but that's missing at least the augustus pablo track ("minstrel pablo")

(i just searched for the first two lines of lyrics and got a hit on a japanese website, then googled the title to check / get youtube link)

koogs, Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link

Wait.. mend a broken heart is a cover?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

I only discovered this very recently too.

Pie face (jed_), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

I was going to respond to a hoy hoy's post, but last time I got fished into an explanation I got dinged. I'm a little gun-shy now.

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clemenza, Sunday, 17 January 2021 22:34 (three years ago) link

Awww clem, I still like ya

a hoy hoy, Monday, 18 January 2021 08:30 (three years ago) link

Only watched Mangrove so far, looking forward to getting round to the rest

Malachi Kirby is uncanny as Darcus Howe, amazing performance

glumdalclitch, Monday, 18 January 2021 08:41 (three years ago) link

Thought Robbie Gee was excellent in Alex Wheatle...For a couple of years after I first saw Miller's Crossing, I'd sometimes ask someone "What's the rumpus?" My new thing is going to be "Come, let's trod."

clemenza, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

My dog now understands Let’s Trod is how we go walkies now.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 18 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

Loved Education--definitely my favourite. The teacher in me is such a sucker for a film like that.

Quick ranking/ratings:

Education - A or A+ (I'd need to see it again)
the middle three - A-
Mangrove - B or B+ (it's fine, I just found it the least personal of the five, and maybe a little too straightforward compared to the others)

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:00 (three years ago) link

Quite a series. A lot I never knew.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link

"Lazy Afternoon" was fantastic in Education. The goofball teacher doing "House of the Rising Sun" killed me. Thought it might have been a sly nod to School of Rock; the punchline to that scene was perfect.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 05:29 (three years ago) link

I caught some interesting interviews with Leroy Logan over the last while. Definitely one where he refers to this series and how he knew John Onyeagba from his son being a rival for the role in Attack The Block. & how Onyeagba had specifically asked to play him.
Not sure if things like that would still be up on YouTube or anything think that was done as a webinar or Zoom performance by a London Borough during Black History Month. Interesting anyway.
Shame they didn't dress Leeeee in Regal gear since that's what I remember him in. May have been slightly later on Pop Quiz though but he always seemed to wear Regal shirts.
My brother who used to be a printer remarked on period accuracy of a printshop they ran into during the chase scene. That it was a weird thing to still have running or to recreate that thoroughly.

Wish there was more of this coming. Also wish I hadn't lost track of time and missed half the webinar interview with Steve Mcqueen he did for a New York source.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 08:04 (three years ago) link

Every one of these deserves to be a 3 part series in itself. They are all crammed too tightly into one hour slots. Makes it feel like elements are being crowbarred in. Or maybe that's just McQueen and his not always smooth grasp on narrative, idk. Either way, I loved education the most tbh, that kid playing Kingsley was so great.

candyman, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 11:16 (three years ago) link

The first 12 minutes of this Zoomcast are on Small Axe. I quote Tracer Hand's "Kung Fu Fighting" post above. My lawyers are on standby--go ahead, I dare you, I double-dare you.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQMDNQJDMLI&t

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Slowly going through these, caught Lovers Rock yesterday night and I don't think I'm going to stop thinking about it for a while.
This one wasn't without it's uncomfortable scenes, but compared to the relentless drama of Mangrove, I especially liked how comfortable McQueen was with simply holding back and letting the camera (and the music) do the work.
A good portion of the film is just people holding each other while they dance; tiny changes in their body language showing different levels of intimacy. Janet Kay's 'Silly Games', (very likely the most iconic of all the Lovers Rock songs), plays out three times: once in full, twice as acapellas sung by the cast (pure magic). Likewise, they wheel-up The Revolutionaries' 'Kunta Kinte Dub' no less than THREE times, with people dancing wildly throughout.
Felt like there were a lot of parallels with the early-80s cult classic movie 'Babylon' (which I caught for the first time the other week) in look and feel. Lovers Rock's portrayal of blues parties and soundsystem culture feels as realistic as they come. If anything, it's the most honest depiction of actually being at a house party that I've ever seen. It neither romanticised or dramatised it. That feeling of wandering from room-to-room looking for your mates, maybe wondering whether it was a good idea to have come in the first place, getting familiar with the revolving cast of faces at the party without getting to know everyone's names, and then slowly realising you're having quite a good time.
There were so many bits that I enjoyed, but one supporting character I really really liked was Martha's troubled cousin. His backstory was referred to only very briefly, but I loved the scene here he nicks someone else's beer and starts dancing over-emphatically in front of the soundsystem. Instead of telling him to cool down or fuck off, one of the crew gives him this sympathetic expression, hands him the end of his joint and takes him over to the mic so he can DJ (and from what it sounds, he turns out to be a decent vocalist!).
In 70-minutes Lovers Rock made me feel like I'd been on a full night out, with all its ups-and-downs, all its most exciting bits, tedious bits, snapshots of drama, snapshots of languishing and self-doubt.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 09:28 (three years ago) link

This review on Letteboxd made me laugh:

"if i don’t get to smoke weed and dance and freak it with my pals and sing a rocky falsetto in the house of somebody i don’t know and keep an eye on a creep with a hat patterned like a yoshi’s island background sometime soon i’m gonna fucking die"

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 09:34 (three years ago) link

great review dl.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 09:43 (three years ago) link


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