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that that one bee gee's name is pronounced 'morris'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

!!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

but some people call him Maurice

Number None, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

Do Americans pronounce it "mo-reese dancing"?

that heat (Matt #2), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

No, we rhyme Morris with Boris. Maurice rhymes with more fleece.

coup coup kajoo (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

and we're back to the juice

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

We're back at my theory that US pronunciation often shows a notable French influence.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

right, but the causality is backwards. Britishes have a long and well-established tradition of anglicizing loanwords. RuhNAYSance. Don JOOan.

USians tend to pronounce French loanwords more like they sounded in French. We're not consistent in that (cf. lawnJOOray) but it is comparatively our habit.

British English has an insular tendency, driven by geography, economics, and (of course) longstanding tribal/national antipathy to the French.

You may remember there was a war a while ago

coup coup kajoo (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

I quite like UK English in general and it sounds more Frenchified to my ears than NA English in some ways (queue, courgette, aubergine, autumn, post, telly, etc.), but 'garadge' drives me up the wall.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

You mean GA-ridge? Not everyone says it that way. I think there’s probably two other UK pronunciations: ga-RARGE (which sounds comically posh) and GA-rarge, which is what I say most of the time I think.

Alba, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

I (a Canuck) pronounce it the Nestea80 and islandgirl way:

https://forvo.com/word/garage/#en

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

Garage d'or
How many puns in that?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

I used to work on reception in a recording studio, and there was a session once with a fairly well-known US actor doing vocals on a dance track. He could NOT pronounce the line about "garage DJs" - every time it came out as ga-rarge. I think they had to rewrite the lyrics in the end.

that heat (Matt #2), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I’m an English accent that sounds stupidly posh, hence the lolz here:

What Matt Hancock thinks he hears Skepta play ... pic.twitter.com/3u6Y85CxHH

— Katie🤍 (@Katiejsmithx) December 22, 2020

Alba, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

in an

Alba, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

'GA-ridge' sounds like mangled French, which is harder to pull off when it's one of your main languages. Conversely, when I'm in France, I can't, for the life of me, pronounce 'tupperware' the French way except with a scathing smirk on my face. See also: 'speeder man' (spider man) and 'ee clood' (iCloud).

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

This is all highly irrational and unfair, of course. Prescriptivism can go fuck itself.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Eheh, some of us even pronounce it "speedairrr man" !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

lol, that is indeed a more accurate approximation.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Confession: I have a Dutch friend who pronounces WiFi as VeeFee and it makes me so happy. Like, I sometimes try to get her to say it just because it's so fun to hear

coup coup kajoo (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

We probably should be saying it "Why-fih" now that i think about it

Nhex, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

Oh no, you've just opened up a whole new 'gif pronunciation' can of worms.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Technically, the French pronunciation (wee-fee) is half correct and hence on par with the English one.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

My ears over-accomodate my Australian wife. She was recently asking me to buy a product, and I was all, "DORN? DARN? DORN?"

And she finally sighed and said, "Like the time of day when the sun rises!" DAWN. Which she had been saying correctly, but I'm so used to her rhotic accent, I just assumed...

Like the time she said she liked going into pawn stores and browsing around, and I was all O Really, eh? Heh Heh, and she was all What is wrong with you.

pplains, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

I've been known to pronounce it 'whiffy' on occasion but then I've also been known to be a total dumbass.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

xpost

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

I had never heard "Last Christmas" before, erm, last Christmas. When it was new I was following The Minutemen and The Meat Puppets, and Wham! was really not in my orbit at all. I also amazingly never encountered in in a supermarket or elsewhere in the years since, so Taylor Swift's 13 year old cover version was my first exposure to what is now apparently an overplayed holiday classic.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

Gertrude Jekyll pronounced it Jee-kill, I think. I had a conversation this summer with my neighbour about his wonderful Gertude Jekylls and we settled on Jee-kills.

I think UK English is becoming more frenchified. You don't hear people talking about Nessles chocolate much these days, and I think "Marsails" for Marseille has disappeared. We'll be saying Paree by 2050.

mahb, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

Pronouncing Racing Club - two English words - as Rrrra-seeeeeeeeng Cloob has been popular in the football/rugby world for a while

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

'Rrrraaaa! Sing! Club!' is a solid war cry.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Also pronouncing Milan (also an English word) as Mee-lahn when it comes to the football club but not the city.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Pay-Ess-Zhay for PSG (Paris St-Germain) is pretty common.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

you should hear how they pronounce it in Milan, TN

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

That's what the tourist board there has been telling me but I'm not biting

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

They do that in New Orleans too.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

There's also all of the Lima's in the US, Peru's as well. Hearing some cornpone person say "Yeah, I had to drive through Lye-Mah to get to the Cracker Barrel" makes me want to punch things, tbh.

The problem with VeeFee, as far as I'm concerned, is that it reminds me too much "fifi," as in "fifi pillow" or "fifi bag."

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

Fergie sang backup vocals on Martika's "Toy Soldiers"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

Zappa is Italian for 'hoe'.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

Superman dat Zappa

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Some Like It Hot was on earlier.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

... wrong thread but I'll just leave that there.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

Can't Make a Zappa a Housewife

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

Spider know I got Zappas, M.O.P. know I got Zappas
Mobb Deep know I got Zappas, Eminem know I got Zappas
Dr. Dre know I got Zappas, Lord knows, I got Zappas

pomenitul, Friday, 25 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

Pimps up, Zappas down

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Friday, 25 December 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

I was listening to 1st Wave on Sirius the other day and heard Richard Blade pronounce the word duet as “du-ay” , I was like wtf but maybe it’s like duvet? So I googled, and du-ay doesn’t seem to be a thing. It is doo-et. But. But, then... I see that it says the British pronunciation is with a j? Like joo-et!? Is this real and how could I ever not come across this until now?

Kim, Saturday, 26 December 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

hmm - it's dyoo-et, not doo or joo, but it does sound very close to joo and in some recent experiments conducted entirely by and on myself it seems you could say joo and get away with it.

ledge, Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Also, depending on where you're from in the UK (and probably your all-important class background) you wouldn't really say the 't' either. So it'd be something like joo-e', with a slight 'h' sound at the end.

why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

There are some British pronunciations of "dual" that sound very close to "jewel" to American ears.

I have an acquaintance in a transatlantic marriage who could not understand what her husband meant by a "jewel carriage way."

feels about eels (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

Some Like it Hot was on first thing in the morning on RTE I think it started at like 9.30.
Used to notice that Irish TV was a lot less censored that the Northern Irish British stuff but that still somewaht surprised me.
Seemed like an odd film to be on at that time anyway even without the transvestite subtext etc and the punchline.
Does this mean a more progressive Ireland or people being so familiar with the film that its all just accepted which again might be positive.

Stevolende, Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link


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