There's also all of the Lima's in the US, Peru's as well. Hearing some cornpone person say "Yeah, I had to drive through Lye-Mah to get to the Cracker Barrel" makes me want to punch things, tbh.
The problem with VeeFee, as far as I'm concerned, is that it reminds me too much "fifi," as in "fifi pillow" or "fifi bag."
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
Fergie sang backup vocals on Martika's "Toy Soldiers"
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
Zappa is Italian for 'hoe'.
― pomenitul, Friday, 25 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
Superman dat Zappa
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link
Some Like It Hot was on earlier.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
... wrong thread but I'll just leave that there.
Can't Make a Zappa a Housewife
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
Spider know I got Zappas, M.O.P. know I got ZappasMobb Deep know I got Zappas, Eminem know I got ZappasDr. Dre know I got Zappas, Lord knows, I got Zappas
― pomenitul, Friday, 25 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
Pimps up, Zappas down
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Friday, 25 December 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link
I was listening to 1st Wave on Sirius the other day and heard Richard Blade pronounce the word duet as “du-ay” , I was like wtf but maybe it’s like duvet? So I googled, and du-ay doesn’t seem to be a thing. It is doo-et. But. But, then... I see that it says the British pronunciation is with a j? Like joo-et!? Is this real and how could I ever not come across this until now?
― Kim, Saturday, 26 December 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
hmm - it's dyoo-et, not doo or joo, but it does sound very close to joo and in some recent experiments conducted entirely by and on myself it seems you could say joo and get away with it.
― ledge, Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
Also, depending on where you're from in the UK (and probably your all-important class background) you wouldn't really say the 't' either. So it'd be something like joo-e', with a slight 'h' sound at the end.
― why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
There are some British pronunciations of "dual" that sound very close to "jewel" to American ears.
I have an acquaintance in a transatlantic marriage who could not understand what her husband meant by a "jewel carriage way."
― feels about eels (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
Some Like it Hot was on first thing in the morning on RTE I think it started at like 9.30.Used to notice that Irish TV was a lot less censored that the Northern Irish British stuff but that still somewaht surprised me.Seemed like an odd film to be on at that time anyway even without the transvestite subtext etc and the punchline.Does this mean a more progressive Ireland or people being so familiar with the film that its all just accepted which again might be positive.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 26 December 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
That's down to Americans pronouncing'u' as 'oo', which, in most cases, you won't hear in the UK (or Aus/NZ/SA?). Unless you're from Norfolk.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
... Ireland.
... I mean, you won't hear it in Ireland either.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
Not sure I understand this?
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
i think he means the foreshortened swallowing of the 't' that happens when americans pronounce the word 'mountain' for instance i.e. 'moun-uhn'
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
i do the same (as an american) with 'duet' i.e. 'doo-eh' and then a hard clamping of the tongue on the upper palate to brings things to a sharp close but definitely not an actual 't' sound
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
In English, I cross the t, so to speak, contra French and in line with the Italian duetto.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
The addition of a y sound after the d doesn’t phase me, but google is telling me the British pronounce it without any d, just a straight up hard j and hard t, which seems insane and wrong.
― Kim, Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
(Oops faze, not phase - always do that one)
― Kim, Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
I think of there being two variable: saying the d as just d, dj or j, then saying the u as you or oo. Just a d is RP I think, and just a j is lower-class SE England, but I’m not sure hope the rest of it breaks down. Scots would generally also say d I think? I’m more dj. The oo bit is the obviously American, and also Indian. But I think joo-et would be roughly how many in SE England would say it too.
― Alba, Saturday, 26 December 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
VariablesSure how
― Alba, Saturday, 26 December 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
Too confusing; didn’t read:Posh people and maybe Scots: dyou-ETCockneys: joo-ETEveryone else: maybe djyou-ET, djoo-ET or the top one
― Alba, Saturday, 26 December 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
Glottal stop?
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link
(xp) Sounds right.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
Yes that's what I meant! I kind of slip into it in my more mockney moments.
― why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Saturday, 26 December 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link
"It's like Strindberg in here. Wi' glottal stops"
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― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
Vaguely related: I listen to a lot of cricket and am still always confused by the Australian pronunciation of 'debut'. I've only heard minor variations of equally stressed 'day-byew' but the Aussie pronunciation is a tiny first 'de' and a big old stress on the second syllable of 'BOO'.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 26 December 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
wi glottal stop meetin' loik this
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 26 December 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link
Legit howling over here
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Saturday, 26 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link
That's down to Americans pronouncing 'u' as 'oo'
I guess we do because I am American and I have no idea what two different sounds you're trying to distinguish here.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 26 December 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
u="you" vs u="oo"
in england you hear this difference in words like 'insulate' - americans will just schwa that u, but english people will pretty much say 'insyoo-late'
i think i first clocked this when i heard someone pronounce 'lure' i.e. 'lyure' - which to me just seems like SUCH a long way round for such a simple word
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 26 December 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
My mum sometimes says 'dyoo-vay' when she's trying to be posh
― kinder, Saturday, 26 December 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link
At least we can all agree on 'inure', right?
…right?
Btw 'lyure' likewise disconcerts my Canuck ears but I can deal with 'alyure'.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 26 December 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link
A dyoo-ron ron ron
A dyoo-ron ron
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 December 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link
Americans say fyool not fool for 'fuel' though, so it's not a hard and fast rule. What about duel or dual though?
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
.. or fewl not foo-el.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
Gimme fool gimme fire
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 December 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
dooldooshwal
― is right unfortunately (silby), Saturday, 26 December 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
Chewsday
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Sunday, 27 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
poxy fyule
― Kim, Sunday, 27 December 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link
Americans say fyool not fool for 'fuel' though, so it's not a hard and fast rule.
― Alba, Sunday, 27 December 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link
this is much adieu about nothing
― Josefa, Sunday, 27 December 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
That's what a fyule believes!
― nickn, Sunday, 27 December 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link
I got p-taken for saying syoot for male formal clobber.NOt sure how you are sposed to say things like that , sooot?
― Stevolende, Sunday, 27 December 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link
Again, RP would be syoot and it’s one my dad would tell us off for when we said sooot.
― Alba, Sunday, 27 December 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes which is on tv right now was based on a play based on a novel from the late 20s which I didn't realise until the novel turned up in a recent poll.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 27 December 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link