ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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Why are they not happy, though? We should go further right.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 27 December 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

I mean, this is Corbyn from the end of January last year (though it would've been June when that resuspension happened) https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/jeremy-corbyn-2492585

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 December 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Yeah, not understanding your point there tbh

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

xps interesting how familiar that NF symbolism & the mythology it stands for feels, most obviously from the relentless straightforward tory/brexit use of it but also from a whole load of ostensibly countercultural vaguely ironic post-punk/post-britpop appropriations that have more or less been subsumed into the mainstream version. as have endless attempts by left & centre to tap into the power of this stuff while downplaying or denying where it comes from & what it's really about

Left, Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

tldr cool britannia was fascist

Left, Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

All those involved with the editorial/design decisions to publish that Select cover with the union jack on it and hype up all those awful brit-bands were the proto-Remainiac wankers of the 90's.

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

One of the things I'm sick to the teeth of right now is politicians of all parties who have never give a flying fuck about child poverty (beyond the usual bland lip service) and have frequently voted to ensure child poverty and a substandard existence is guaranteed to millions of children. And then they come out with this concern trolling flam that closing schools is driving these poor children to an even more unfavourable inequality gap than they previously faced - which is probably correct - but fuck off hypocrites.

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

well its also that, its probably true but it needn't be? if these same people care all of a sudden about inequality well lets just fix it now

plax (ico), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:47 (three years ago) link

It's a very Blairite fantasy, that education leads you out of poverty and one day everybody will magically be middle class and only well paid bourgie jobs will exist

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

Like right now child poverty and homelessness are two ills that have exponentially shot up in the last decade. There used to be a Labour Party committed to ending these ills - there isn't anymore because apparently they were evil!

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

I find the cant about "child poverty" rather than just "poverty" pretty suspicious tbh

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

If I won the lottery I wouldn't give a penny to charities. I'd just go out distribute a few grand here and there to homeless people or people in need. If they spent it all on crack then fair play, better than pissing it away in toothless charities that have signed gagging orders to never criticise Tories.

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

xp well yeah one is the chief cause of the other

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

the misery of adult working poverty and the experiences of their children is all part of the same disease

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

Aye and somehow I think if you gave every kid in the country an education all the way to degree level there'd still be Amazon and Sports Direct and the care sector and the gig economy exploiting people into poverty

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

When Kieth started his Jobs, Jobs, Jobs campaign I thought he might have found a new billionaire Labour donor from the darknet end of the Recruitment Agency sector, someone who helps coerce vulnerable women into sex work with a sideline for human trafficking. Because that would be his level tbf!

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqRG36JXMAEjl4m?format=jpg&name=medium

I just got this image off Kieth's ebay, he's selling his old mattress "infused with genuine LOTO sex sweat that still hasn't been washed off it" OMG that is a new low!

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

sorry - gone too far here!

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

Not an image I wanna contemplate tho it's hard to imagine Kieth working up a sweat

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

He does like to play a bit of energetic 5-a-side football with teams made up of human rights barristers I've heard

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

Kicking around the head of a Brexiter

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

often taking on metropolitan police sides and blatantly letting them win 18-0 every game and telling them what a good job they did afterwards

calzino, Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link

Should have won by 20

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 28 December 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link

This is quite the story. Private hospital capacity was block purchased this year to take pressure off NHS during first peak of pandemic and then wasn't used to reduce waiting times over the rest of the year when it had already been paid for. https://t.co/9sKNkuhHVW

— Mark Brown (@MarkOneinFour) December 10, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

there will be hell to pay when Kieth gets wind of this!

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

Keith to uncritically support tier 5.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/29/tier-5-england-faces-possible-new-covid-restrictions-source-says

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

meanwhile...

Gonna be an interesting year for the Green Party of England and Wales, isn't it. pic.twitter.com/Bpak79N839

— D Franklin (@D_Libris) December 28, 2020

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

Lol omg

imago, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

something for everybody, brilliant

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

Fucking hell! Green party policy on trans rights is pretty clear btw: https://policy.greenparty.org.uk/rr.html

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Fills you with confidence in this watertight deal.

Netscape Communicator is mentioned in Brexit document ... Almost feels like it is 40 years old ...1K RSA and SHA-1 ... one day we will build a digital world fit for the 21st Century ... pic.twitter.com/1cg6uX3clw

— Prof B Buchanan OBE (@billatnapier) December 26, 2020

new variant (onimo), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

lol NickB

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

I think Kieth might be on a mission to see if he can be even more widely despised amongst teachers than Gove was, he's succeeding with flying colours if that's what he's going for.

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

to the students who follow me on here: i would strongly advise rethinking plans to come back to student halls or shared houses if u have other, safe options. the uni will keep sending you upbeat emails & making unkeepable promises about testing & safety & the student experience

— Sita Balani (@sitainshort) December 29, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

Incredible to think that even worse is yet to come

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

This is so bleak, supposedly Sage are doing an announcement tomorrow at ten, hopefully is about the schools.

Pic of ambulances stacked up outside @RoyalLondonHosp pic.twitter.com/unZUhixOuk

— Shaun Lintern (@ShaunLintern) December 29, 2020

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

anybody want to read a load of FBPEeps falling out of love with Kieth on Twitter?

no, nor me

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 08:26 (three years ago) link

#Coronavirus cases in last 24 hours:
🇬🇧 UK - 53,135
*more than all the below combined*

🇫🇷 FRANCE - 8,816
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 10,976
🇮🇹 ITALY - 8,937
🇳🇱 NETHERLANDS - 9,108
🇵🇱 POLAND - 3,211
🇵🇹 PORTUGAL - 1,577
🇮🇪 IRELAND - 735

— Michael Cowan (@mrmikecowan) December 29, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 09:47 (three years ago) link

anybody want to read a load of FBPEeps falling out of love with Kieth on Twitter?

no, nor me

― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Will they self-combust when Corbyn abstains or votes against?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link

I do, actually. Is it Lineker? O'Brien? Grayling?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link

I don't know the details of any deal, have given up on this stuff by now, but for the sake of it, in the circumstances, I hope that JC votes against Brexit.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

(1) Just a reminder that the "People's Vote" campaign had a strategy called "Last Man Standing" of pushing MPs to vote against any 'softer' Brexit deal, because they claimed stopping any compromise would, by "remorseless logic" force a second referendum and the end of Brexit. pic.twitter.com/jcjLJk4h6p

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) December 30, 2020

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link

On a different note, I am just in despair looking at this stuff:

Wetherspoons literally filling their windows with anti-lockdown propaganda. Repugnant. pic.twitter.com/R69VZKs4yv

— Elainovision, Tiered and Tired (@scattermoon) December 29, 2020

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 09:57 (three years ago) link

And, as ever, illuminating to see how long you can have the whip if you’re from the party’s right

at what point is something going to be done about this? pic.twitter.com/biUn0unjMz

— bread and poses (@breadandposes) December 29, 2020

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 10:05 (three years ago) link

jfc the replies on that one are grim

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

this one was good:

Let's quit with the pretence that your concern here is about female sexuality or upholding the rights of lesbians, Jackie. https://t.co/OCZnEB6n9H pic.twitter.com/PPdw5c2OyV

— Charlotte Nichols (@charlotte2153) December 29, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link

If this is their plan it is almost the worst possible way to go about it

In contrast to Starmer's reported comments in the @guardian interview, Labour clearly do have ambitions to improve the Brexit deal. They're laying 9 amendments today on issues including SIS II, economic impact, employment and environmental standards and Erasmus.

Thread 👇👇 /1

— Mike Buckley (@mdbuckley) December 30, 2020

stet, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

oh ffs have you got be on that irritating melty twat Izzard's side now? Fuck the bigots but I voted twice to keep her off the Labour NEC cos her politics suck and she's a irritating dickhead.

calzino, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

If this is their plan it is almost the worst possible way to go about it

It's not a plan, it will have the same impact on the deal as waving it through. He's just playing a different tune for a different audience.

new variant (onimo), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

Yes that’s more like it; it’s like his leadership campaign again

stet, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link


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