In this film it was butcher's hook = look but I can't remember the other one.
I thought the back and forth editing worked quite well.
A clip of Stamp saying "I'm fucking coming" is what got me watching this.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
True, I'm not on the street much. But I've generally heard people using the whole rhyme rather than just part of it. Apples and pears, jack and jill etc.
You've actually heard someone use 'apples and pears'? That seems unlikely! But, yes, only part of the rhyme is generally used.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link
Nobody at all says “butchers hook”, they say “butchers” and it’s understood
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link
Stamp simply says "butcher's". Also "tea leaves."
― And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link
Right, like everyone does, as Tom said
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link
So people just say apples for stairs and jack for hill?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 28 December 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link
No
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
"Tea leaves" seems to be the exception in that it actually rhymes, not sure if there is another part.
― And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link
I doubt anyone says 'apples and pears', I've only ever heard that used as a joke version of cockernee rhyming slang. Not sure I've heard of 'jack and jill' for hill ever?
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link
Nobody really uses those phrases any more, but a lot of the ones that are still in semi common usage are shortened. Nobody ever says “Barnet fair”, they say Barnet
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link
(xxp) 'Tea' wouldn't really work, it's too short.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
In Jane Busmann's Once In A Lifetime book about Acid House she makes mention of how the oldskool cockney rhyming slang and new drug-speak made for a nice mixture in the late 80s, especially when you'd overhear dealers and such. The one bit she quotes has stayed with me for 20 years"I'll do biscuits for a cockle, and Archie Moore on the capsules.. "
― piscesx, Monday, 28 December 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
Soderbergh was obv fond of this gag cause he reused it in oceans 11 when the terrible don cheadle “cockney” character would be like “cor blimey were in Barney now” (everyone stares) “...Barney Rubble” (everyone stares) “...trouble!!”
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link
Has this thread mentioned Barry Newman's fixer character yet?
― And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah, Morbius quoted him upthread.
― And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link
Also some discussion here: Talking Even More Smack In SF
― And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link
My dad (born London 1928) used to say "up the apple and pears".
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 December 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link
As a joke no doubt.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link
I mean, that's always the expression that is used as a sort of parodic example of rhyming slang. It probably hasn't been used in earnest since the Edwardian era.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link
I guess any Cockney rhyming slang he used would have been "in quotes" in Canada in the 1970s.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 December 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
Well, yes.
What do you expect from a septic?
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link
Hard for us to know what is current usage, sorry
― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link
Peter Fonda is impressively demonic-looking in this, like his face is about to peel back and reveal a grinning skull at any moment. Kind of fits with how paper-thin almost everything in the movie is, as the screenwriter points out.
― JoeStork, Monday, 28 December 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link
this movie is a vibe. it doesn't need to have a lot going on.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 28 December 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link
Otm. Good description of Peter Fonda’s death’s head look though.
― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link
This is on Amazon Prime until the end of December. Can’t watch it too many times.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 18 December 2021 23:33 (two years ago) link
Feel somewhat similar although haven’t actually watched it that many times. Maybe it will persist on Tubi TV.
― Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link
I’ve watched it a ton, but not for a very long time. Looking forward to a revisit!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 19 December 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
Outstanding film.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 19 December 2021 12:31 (two years ago) link