Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Zoe Williams, please stop posting.

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

Lol correct, didn’t she have that stupid take about two weeks before the start of second wave about how gr8 it is to work in an office

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

Zoe Williams is a Guardian columnist.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

you missed out "Tragically," at the beginning there

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 December 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

"Novels are terrible and you'll never convince me otherwise." We don’t need fiction – the real world is strange enough. Plus, fancy writing is incomprehensible, argues Ben Butler. Lucy Clark tries to prove him wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/dec/28/novels-are-terrible-and-youll-never-convince-me-otherwise

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

ok

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

i promise never to try to convince this man otherwise or to even think about him ever again

plax (ico), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

The plodding mundanity of Ben’s mind shows me exactly why people read novels.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Seriously, never trust people who go off about how intrinsically lesser fiction is and how they’d rather be reading a hagiography of some cunt. Basically take the John Waters view on non-fiction braggers.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

it's all fiction really

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

I have no idea what’s happening and little interest in putting in the work of figuring it out.

Lol, I fucking bet.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

i say ban non-fiction too… the thing happened! why are we just feebly repeating it print, who does that help?

mark s, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

Ben Butler is Guardian Australia's senior business reporter

could've just printed that, save bothering with the article

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

I'm possibly putting it a bit simplistic here, but even if someone spends 10 years studying the soviet archives and writes an account of life in the soviet union, it's still their story, filtered through their own biases etc

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

anyway Daniil Kharms was the only real non-fiction writer

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Ben Butler is Guardian Australia's senior business reporter

lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 December 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

Kingdoms may rise and kingdoms may fall, but some things never change - L@ur@ B@rt0n among them.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/dec/29/i-was-bored-of-chats-about-house-prices-and-polyamory-but-i-had-a-secret-plan-for-happiness

It was January when I decided that salvation might lie in facts. I was in the Mojave desert, watching the sun rise over Seven Magic Mountains – Ugo Rondinone’s much-Instagrammed neon-rock sculpture in the Ivanpah Valley.

josef cake (Matt #2), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

Lol she just can't help herself. I never see people on twitter sharing Laura Barton links with comments like "brilliant piece is this" perhaps all her readership are too busy joining creative communities and attending pop-up restaurants and festivals... eh what fucking year is this?!

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link

Our house was still not ready when the lease on the rented flat expired and – having gambled on readiness – we had nowhere to live. Days before we had to move out, we were desperately casting around. With immense kindness, my best friend stepped in. He has a tiny, spare, one-bedroom flat opposite our house, in which family members stay when they come to London.

||||||||, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

O the humanity!

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

never heard of this columnist before sounds hillaria

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

one of my faves of this genre of myopic priv-class blathering was when the late Deborah Orr was pondering something like: why is everyone so critical of zero-hour contracts? what about people like my friend who likes to teach Yoga part-time occasionally and not be constrained by something as vulgar as a full-time working week.

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

i thought spare rooms were luxurious and this guy's got a spare flat!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

"oh, this old thing? i run it out every few months just to keep the rust off"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

this from the guardian’s “analysis” of the new BBC chairman appointment:

Sharp’s appointment to the BBC could be a sign of the “Sunakification” of the British establishment, whatever that means.

well i think you’ve really nailed that. identified a really important process in the framework of institutional governance. if it is a process. and idk governance what the hell is that is it just a word? not really sure what i mean by framework either like a climbing frame maybe i guess.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 January 2021 07:53 (three years ago) link

>>> Our house was still not ready when the lease on the rented flat expired and – having gambled on readiness – we had nowhere to live. Days before we had to move out, we were desperately casting around. With immense kindness, my best friend stepped in. He has a tiny, spare, one-bedroom flat opposite our house, in which family members stay when they come to London.

Where's that from? Not ms Barton!

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 January 2021 09:54 (three years ago) link

So bad it needed to be posted twice.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:16 (three years ago) link

Didn't he used to post here or am I confusing him with someone?

the hold my beer putsch (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:20 (three years ago) link

yes he did!

calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:23 (three years ago) link

He has a tiny, spare, one-bedroom flat opposite our house, in which family members stay when they come to London (yes, I know, a spare flat. But all I can do is thank goodness he has it).

does everyone at the Graun have a friend who just happens to have a spare fucking flat in London?

calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:25 (three years ago) link

Boggling at the Hann article. All the 'what i learned during lockdown' pieces have a base of privilege, which is fine tbh, but 'after being mildly inconvenienced, i learned that i love my spacious Victorian house in London' is fabulous.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:36 (three years ago) link

(PS did I mention I'm a music journalist)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

Down and out in a one bedroom flat in London

calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 11:00 (three years ago) link

Someone who had previously spent 20+ years as a staffer and has an Oxbridge spouse with an even better staff job should probably not be regarded as a precarious freelancer, yet this is every self-employed, married 40s/50s music writer I know. They’re all in houses or large flats which they bought because they married another middle-class person with a flat bought for a song in the ‘90s, consolidated, and if they have a mortgage at all it’s substantially lower than the price of a room in a flatshare. Boo fucking hoo.

scampopo (suzy), Thursday, 7 January 2021 11:01 (three years ago) link

it's not that I disagree with what she's saying so much as that she is writing this article, now, while living in the USA. you know, that USA

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/06/britain-used-to-be-my-home-but-its-beginning-to-look-unrecognisable-to-me

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 7 January 2021 11:45 (three years ago) link

lol, the request for money at the bottom of the page is longer than the article.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 January 2021 11:49 (three years ago) link

Boggling at the Hann article.

Don't even know where to start with that, it reads like a parody and then the accompanying photo just pushes it over the edge.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 January 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link

temporary living in a one bedroom flat when you own a spacious London townhouse must be a bit of a bind tbf, maybe he should have had a crowdfunder link at the bottom of the article - help fund for him and family for a weekend in Provence to psychologically recuperate from such an ordeal

calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link

Just think, they might have had to live near some working class people.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 January 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link

that kitchen he's standing in is probably bigger than half the flats I've lived in tbh

boxedjoy, Thursday, 7 January 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link

...then the accompanying photo just pushes it over the edge

Indeed, it's almost as if it supplied by an AI:

epitome of middle class middle aged wankerdom - check
smug expression - check
immaculate kitchen unit and fittings - check
sense of spaciousness - check
rest of house in shot hints at the epitome of guardian lifestyle aspiration - check

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 7 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

Gotta give the cozy catastrophe soft-left crowd some comfort food, let them believe the world isn't completely going to hell in a handB&Q cart and keep the advertisers happy.

the hold my beer putsch (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 January 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link

The kids – 20 and 16 – couldn’t tolerate how cramped it was; once lockdown loosened even a little, they went to sleep in any house that would let them in.

Was there ever a period since March that it was okay to sleep over in someone else's house??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 January 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link

Nothing to do with being confined with this nitwit for hours at a time.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 January 2021 14:40 (three years ago) link

These fucks live on another planet

lol but this reminds me of last year some actor shared a video of a zoom audition he did where this cunt director (I think confirmed to be Matthew Vaughan which makes sense) didn’t realise he had his mic on and was overheard saying “these poor people, they live in these awful tiny apartments, no space” & the actor told him off & was saying “yeah I know I have a shitty flat, give me the fuckin job so I can get a nice one!”

But the whole time I was watching it I’m like “that’s a shitty flat?!” I swear these ppl should see my place

Yelp for gyros (wins), Thursday, 7 January 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link

OTM... er, apart from the bit about your flat, that I can't comment on.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

Even visiting it after hours to check on its progress could be disastrous – such as when I discovered the builders had left a bottle of milk on top of a box of records, but hadn’t secured the lid. This was a box containing my oldest vinyl, the stuff from my teens. Now the records were stained and stank of sour milk. I went through the Discogs website calculating their worth. There was a 12in single from 1987 that had been in near mint condition – an unblemished cover, barely played. It had been worth £120. It wasn’t now.

tenner says it's mbv - strawberry wine

kites aren't fun (NickB), Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

fucking builders eh???

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link

Reading between the lines, the klutz knocked over a bottle of milk ruining his own records.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link


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