outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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btw the untested single dose rollout seems like exactly the kind of big physics brain idea that comes from dominic cummings types.

people have advocated for *running trials* to see whether it's a good idea (e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/18/opinion/coronavirus-vaccine-doses.html), but the UK attitude seems to be let's just do it and be legends.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

Let's just muddle through, what?

josef cake (Matt #2), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

until it's over we'll have to, somehow

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

Oh great thank you mainstream press.

California nurse tests positive over a week after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine: ABC https://t.co/wTZNqtTBmD pic.twitter.com/xwceAlccW6

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 30, 2020

โ€œBigโ€ Don Abernathy, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link

More on that 52%

1/ The MHRA has approved a longer gap between doses for both the AstraZeneca vaccine and the Pfizer vaccine. The latter has concerned some people. Specifically many are citing a figure of 52% for protection after the first dose.

Here is why this 52% figure isn't useful [1/n] pic.twitter.com/ZdFJNMtRxd

— Theo Sanderson (@theosanderson) December 30, 2020

stet, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

Nearly 4000 dead over the last 24h in the USโ€ฆ jfc

pomenitul, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

holiday reporting is going to be unevenly distributed, so i'm hoping the 4000 is just offsetting a lower-than-usual day

but yes. it is grim

Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

grim should be dictionary.com word of the year for 2020

Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

In less than ten months, covid-19 has killed more than one of every thousand US residents -- 338,500 dead out of a population of about 335,000,000.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYy6YY0EC94

Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

this is as depressing as it sounds from the URL. this was new to me: "Keep in mind that, in 1947, New York City vaccinated 5 million people against smallpox in two weeks." https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link

"accidentally" my ass

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

jebus. so thievery or apocalypto?

Nhex, Thursday, 31 December 2020 06:02 (three years ago) link

the email from my hospital's chief medical officer today said that out of ~9k people offered the vaccine by email, ~8% declined and ~40% had not responded

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

_lol we're all quite literally gonna die_


And going to gift the world a vaccine-resistant strain, seemingly (because the selection potential to create one will be huge with vaccinated people eating out to help out beside infectious people)


We call this โ€œinnovative exportsโ€ now

Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

xp I expect email may not be the best way of inviting elderly patients? where I am there's pleas on local Facebook groups from the practice to pass the information on to elderly family, friends and neighbours... takeup seems great so far but comms are really rushed, presumably due to short notice of obtaining vaccine supplies...

kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

Just received this email cancelling my 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine. On the basis of UK government guidance yesterday. This means that the vaccine is not being delivered as licensed. I DID NOT consent to receive an off-label drug with NO evidence of benefit with a single dose. pic.twitter.com/ZDtIjm1z8W

— Dr Katrina Farrell (@farrell_katrina) December 31, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

what a shitshow

kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

So near yet so far

meanwhile back at the song (Matt #2), Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

Kinda feel the government won't go through with it, given some of the reaction...but hey ho, let's see what they do.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

This might be the most insane and reckless thing these idiots have tried yet

Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

What are they trying to achieve by this approach? Give out more first doses to more people?

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

i think so, yeah

kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

xp I expect email may not be the best way of inviting elderly patients? where I am there's pleas on local Facebook groups from the practice to pass the information on to elderly family, friends and neighbours... takeup seems great so far but comms are really rushed, presumably due to short notice of obtaining vaccine supplies...

โ€• kinder, Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:37 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago)

these arenโ€™t patients, theyโ€™re employees

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Just more failed state bs from dimwits high on their own supply. Itโ€™s a gamble but if it pays off by Jove weโ€™ll be laughing

Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

people will refuse to get vaxed and simultaneously complain that things won't return to normal.

it's sort of like...

we offered you the ability to restore to some semblance of interactive activity by wearing a mask. you refused.
we asked you to quarantine for a month like everybody else was doing. you refused.
we're now giving you a vaccine - you refused.

you just want things to go back to normal with zero effort on your part is what it boils down to, if you're one of these people.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

i had to listen to some idiots whining that "they're gonna make us get vaxed to go to Yankee Stadium again. that just ain't right mannnn"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

they should require fans get vaccinated against the sickness that is sitting through another ALCS, I would take that one

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

the lady sitting next to him called it a 'racket' to make money, then said she was a teacher not long after.

god help us

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

I checked: God is on a cig break.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

p much we are all living in a low-security lunatic asylum

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

what if God smelled like a bus

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

just a bum like one of us

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

If anti-vaxxers make this shit drag on for another year, we're gonna start seeing some violent reactions to their pisspants baby tantrums.

Telly Salivas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 December 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

Sorry kevin, I misunderstood!

kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

some of us (*looks at myself*) are very bad at responding to emails in general though!

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Israel has vaccinated over 10% of its population already.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

Honestly of all the things the us has screwed up this year, the vaccine rollout is the most depressing. Almost a year to prepare.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

Iโ€™ve posted this before, but this was written in May

https://newrepublic.com/article/157704/coronavirus-vaccine-united-states-health-care

โ€œThe U.S. simply does not have anything resembling the infrastructure necessary to ensure that everyone gets anything, including food or water or shelter, let alone something that requires access to a health care worker. To the extent that we have ever aspired to this sort of capability, those traditions have long eroded, worn down by our debased politics. We do not have a National Health Serviceโ€“style system, which was able to produce a (poorly handled but nevertheless extant) list of patients who were at high risk for the coronavirus. My mother in Britain, who has received immunotherapy for lung cancer for the past two years, was on this list. She received a text from the government telling her to stay inside for 12 weeks, plus a phone call and two letters, which also advised her of government resources for food and help for the extremely vulnerable and suggested that she spend time with the windows open or sitting on her doorstep.โ€

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

โ€œand one dose of a two-dose vaccine.โ€

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

Feel like one of the outcomes of this is going to be US culture becoming like I dunno Mexico or Russia, where *everyone* (not just the โ€œdonโ€™t tread on meโ€ types) assumes everything the government says is a malicious or incompetent lie.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

โ€œand one dose of a two-dose vaccine.โ€


Haha well yes ahem.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

Oh come on, that second dose will be forthcoming, for those that live long enough

kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

Feel like one of the outcomes of this is going to be US culture becoming like I dunno Mexico or Russia, where *everyone* (not just the โ€œdonโ€™t tread on meโ€ types) assumes everything the government says is a malicious or incompetent lie.

โ€• ๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:18 PM (thirty-nine seconds ago)

this is sort of the point of the last 40 years of the conservative movement!

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

TS: say youโ€™re going to do something stupid and then doing it, vs saying youโ€™re going to do something good and then fucking up completely through lack of interest and malice.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

this is sort of the point of the last 40 years of the conservative movement!


Congrats to the conservative movement! :)

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

The hospital in my parents town in the panhandle was desperately calling random people in the county offering to give them the vaccine. Only 1/3 of nurses took it

— kai (@alaskan214) December 31, 2020

โ€œBigโ€ Don Abernathy, Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

here is the said nhs coronavirus advice - ibuprofen and honey and, yes, opening a window.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/how-to-treat-symptoms-at-home/

koogs, Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

that's roughly what my GP recommends for literally every ailment i've ever seen him about and it usually works tbf

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link


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