Star Wars Sequel Trilogy POLL

It wasn't always successful, but I throw this to TLJ for at least trying. I can definitely see why it pissed off true Star Wars fans so much though.

I’m such a true Star Wars fan that I didn’t see any Star War between Caravan Of Courage and TLJ. Good movie!

Fight choreo in the throne room was weak though yeah

still could never really figure out what all the anger was about

To be clear, I see why Star Wars true fans were pissed off in that they were pissed the film attempted to do something rather than copy the original. The Star Wars fans I know were mostly mad that they 'ruined' Luke.

that was so weird to me! that's such a classic old western trope, the old gunslinger is in some cabin get outta here kid that's not me anymore then he reluctantly comes out of retirement

Yeah that Luke criticism always seemed dumb to me for the same reason (there’s a samurai movie influence to that too) but also so many years had passed since the last films I never got why they expected that he should be exactly the same person. Plus the nazis came back so it makes sense that he would be cynical about his earlier heroism.

The most succinct explanation of why people get mad at forward movement in their treasured childhood narratives is that those people are babies.

I really resent that dislike for TLJ & the resultant paste of ROS is supposedly because of “the fans” - as a fan who knows fans, I know not of these “fans” and I disown them completely.

If i'm being forgiving, they don't recognize Buddhism.
And also forgot the whole lesson of Luke's actions in Return of the Jedi. Or never quite understood it in the first place.

TFA is emptily competent hackwork and not completely insulting - the first time I saw it, it was exciting to see what felt like the old school style up onscreen but a second viewing revealed it to be thoroughly mediocre. what is had going for it on the second viewing, almost the only thing, were Ridley/Boyega/Driver. Harrison Ford sort of alright, Oscar Isaac pointless, Carrie Fisher unfortunately not great.

TLJ: a lot better, i appreciate the idea of the entire film being a chase scene, the production is stunning (it might be the best looking SW film aside from Empire and arguably Rogue One), Holdo maneuver the single best part of the entire trilogy and probably far too underrated as a whoa moment. it's admirable and ambitious and has a very good Mark Hamill performance. at this point i'd only call it a pretty solidly good SF movie, albeit deserving to be remembered, albeit one which was unfortunately canceled out by the subsequent shitshow --->

---> Rise of Skywalker irredeemably bad, significantly worse than almost any other film/tv series emerging from the major fan culture properties. including the hobbit trilogy in that. "Palpatine lives" is a reverse "poochy died on his way back to his home planet." it's an indictment of Hollywood that JJ Abrams has been given as much creative clout as he has, over Star Wars, Star Trek, Mission Impossible (for a minute), and obliquely the Rings of Power series. ROS was awful enough that someday they'll wipe all three films from the canon, and honestly i can't imagine anyone who wasn't around for their release will want to watch them over and over again. maybe not even once, i think they'll be steered clear.

i'm only posting about these now due to a recent re-screen with my son, who grew increasingly annoyed/perplexed throughout the last one. he's really into mando/boba/andor though.

The most insulting thing imo is that they hastily overwrote decades' worth of post-ROTJ expanded universe material with the sad fart of a newly-canonical shaggy dog. I don't think it's even a little bit of a coincidence that Disney immediately and consistently flooded the market with streaming SW content after Rise of Skywalker, a very 'no no don't look back there, look over HEEEERE!' move.

ROS retroactively erasing the “chosen one” element of Lucas’ Anakin story arc so a barely-there zombie emperor could be the villain in their bullshit movie is a major crime.

My son also watched the prequel trilogy and was enthralled generally. Having not seen them in ages, with fresh eyes I can say they’re so much better as a story, with a clear logical sense to it. Revenge of the Sith is a really great conclusion.

Of all the assets that came with the Star Wars franchise when Disney bought it, the one they must wish they could do without, but can't jettison without losing mucho money, are the fans who meticulously compare every detail of every new release against the canonical Star Wars universe.

I keep forgetting that I saw Rise of Skywalker (the other two were fine).

xpost The canonical SW universe is relatively small now (after Disney reset the goalposts) and fairly internally consistent since it's basically maintained by Dave Filoni at this point.