what do i do if i enjoy matt's politics takes but his art/culture takes make me want to never go on the internet again?
― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link
the safe answer is probably just to never go on the internet again
whenever he says "squib" skip ahead 15 minutes
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
https://newrepublic.com/article/160738/modern-monetary-theory-left-debate(about Chapo adjacent internecine podcast drama, not just MMT)― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, December 31, 2020 4:03 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
(about Chapo adjacent internecine podcast drama, not just MMT)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, December 31, 2020 4:03 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
it makes sense that a large portion of the US left would eat up some anti-tax pro-workfare snakeoil but it’s still depressing to me
― flopson, Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link
As one listener put it on Twitter, their podcasts have “just enough Heidegger to confuse the economists. just enough economics to confuse philosophers. all of it not specific enough to even be wrong. an interdisciplinary mish mash making even the film theorists blush.” Likewise, another wrote, “*MMT humanities bro rips bong* MMT bro: the ontologic historical problematic mediates and reifies through the univocal application of a transhistoric monetary epistemology that mediates the primordial ooze that is ‘your hand’ and ‘toothpaste.’”
loool this is accurate
i like this substack a lot tho https://vebaccount.substack.com/p/production-dsirante-and-the-investment
― flopson, Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
this tweet quoted in the piece says it all really
*love* the MMT humanities guys. just enough Heidegger to confuse the economists. just enough economics to confuse philosophers. all of it not specific enough to even be wrong. an interdisciplinary mish mash making even the film theorists blush. am subscribing to their patreon— BO H (@bo_austin_) December 5, 2020
(xp!!)
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link
One paper by members of the Money On The Left project called for the creation of a Fed-backed, university-issued currency, known as “the Uni,” to both support operations and provide an academic jobs guarantee, insulating scholars from questions about whether their work is a worthy use of “taxpayer” money.The Uni project is a model: Instead of funding the project by taking existing monetary wealth from rich people—and thus ultimately granting the propertied classes the privileged place they enjoy in our politics as “tax payers”—it undertakes public investment using the state’s unique money-creating power. This has some profound political implications: if investment in public projects like universities or infrastructure ultimately stems from the state’s money-creating powers, not taxes, then a politics that fully harnesses that power would make the rich politically irrelevant. The government still taxes, but to check inflation and accumulations of unproductive wealth.
The Uni project is a model: Instead of funding the project by taking existing monetary wealth from rich people—and thus ultimately granting the propertied classes the privileged place they enjoy in our politics as “tax payers”—it undertakes public investment using the state’s unique money-creating power. This has some profound political implications: if investment in public projects like universities or infrastructure ultimately stems from the state’s money-creating powers, not taxes, then a politics that fully harnesses that power would make the rich politically irrelevant. The government still taxes, but to check inflation and accumulations of unproductive wealth.
so painfully dumb and embarrassing. this is as bad as the crypto currency people
― flopson, Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link
but his art/culture takes make me want to never go on the internet again?
― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:00 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is one of the primary reasons why i just can't
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
I mean I agree with him about squibs vs CGI blood but also that's a ten-second opinion at most
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 3 January 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
i don't listen to the show much anymore, but he's sparked a sub-bill simmons-level discussion on twitter about "dumb smart" and "smart dumb" film directors
― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
nfc east / democratic party- love sidelining their best players- heavy presence in nyc and dc- washington finally made least-they-could-do concessions in 2020 after decades of protest- had a presence in texas a long time ago- not interested in doing anything- losers— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) January 4, 2021
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 05:25 (three years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/5M99iGWA7V— dr. professor kashiwagi, esq. (@kwamurai) January 9, 2021
I'm sure everyone is going to be super chill about this
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 January 2021 04:47 (three years ago) link
haha what the fuck did they do?
Felix was extremely good at guessing the neolib nudges on the latest Patreon Trashfuture.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 10 January 2021 04:52 (three years ago) link
the Will Sommer episode was terrible, they should never have guests with both Matt and Amber on because they never get a chance to say anythingplus Amber started talking a bunch of specious conspiracy stuff right away and Felix's lol quit overreacting thing gets dumber the more we know about itmore and more it feels disjointed, like Virgil is basically done with it, Will, Matt and Amber seem to be going in different directions, Felix just seems to double down on saying "This [shitty person] is so rad" facetious schtick but often feels like he's probably just not paying attentionthe movie watching episodes seem like everyone has fun with
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 10 January 2021 04:55 (three years ago) link
man the QAnon Anonymous people found a rich, dependable lane huh
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 January 2021 06:23 (three years ago) link
that video of matt super drunk from that livestream still gives me the creeps man lmao he's like poltergeist drunk
That's not just alcohol, trust me.
― fields of salmon, Monday, 11 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link
the QAA people were on vacation during the riot. lol.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 11 January 2021 06:24 (three years ago) link
sorry if wrong thread but loooool
Absolutely incredible. pic.twitter.com/NJRplehf08— Marc ⛳️ (@ethnicohioan) January 10, 2021
― rob, Monday, 11 January 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link
Nick Mullen is the president of the DSA? or is this some sort of injoke incomprehensible to outsiders? Also I knew he dated one of the Redscare weirdos but is he uhh suspect or crypto fascist?
― Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 January 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
that is a long running joke
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
i think he dated the less shitty red scare weirdo
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
the people who think that the DSA either is, or has been taken over by, sexist male edgelords were also very anti-Mullen on twitter
so, the sarcastic joke is “yes, Nick Mullen, DSA president”
― mh, Monday, 11 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
i think he dated the less shitty red scare weirdo― here 1st (roxymuzak), Monday, January 11, 2021 12:19 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Monday, January 11, 2021 12:19 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
he didn't, adam did
― Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Monday, 11 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link
oops
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Monday, 11 January 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link
QAA Capitol episode very good so far
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link
Just got to the clip of Trump’s speech where he whines about Oprah before sending off his minions to try and kill Senators.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/w8MIaFC.jpg
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 04:02 (three years ago) link
cuuuuursed
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link
It's very Giamatti
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link
Not unexpectedly so, tho
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 08:07 (three years ago) link
the show is very lazy and bad right now. please just do an episode about the khashoggi movie thank you
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 15 January 2021 12:39 (three years ago) link
I watched First Blood the other night and was thinking that would be a fun one for them to do
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 12:40 (three years ago) link
Yeah it's absolutely wretched at the moment, barely ever funny at all and you can feel their "Actually, Trump was good" contrarianism master-class take coming.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link
seems like a stretchwell, maybe a stoned Amber could galaxy-brain her way there idk
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link
I wouldn't go that far but it's embarrassing to hear them guffaw over anticipated fuckups and disappointments of their own imagining
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link
I mean,,, $1400 after winning GEORGIA with the promise of $2k is kind of Charlie Brown purposely missing the ball
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:27 (three years ago) link
and let’s be real: 1400 probably ain’t happening either after it’s been poked and prodded and pragmatized to death
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:28 (three years ago) link
Matt's own streams are a mess right now too, but it's interesting hearing him trying to work out his thoughts
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link
they were already on the "trump was actually good for foreign policy" a couple months ago then making chicken shit little asides to acknowledge that the drone program was worse under Trump and more secretivethey seem pretty invested in sticking with the "lol the capitol riot was nbd" despite more and more evidence we've seen since the day it happened continue to point to the fact that is was serious and coordinated
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link
They're going big on the odds of little changing, seems pretty safe, and if they're wrong then they'll be happy about it. They're so dedicated to this that i don't think they bothered to mention Bernie's new job? I am owning myself now by thinking that could be anything at all?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link
sometimes i need to remind myself that they rake in $170k a month on patreon so they aren't exactly that worried
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link
Are they cool with Sinophobia? It seems the online left was far more concerned with making fun of liberals worrying about Russia that they missed the boat on Trump’s new cold war with China. Just last week the US and Taiwan exchanged high level diplomats, breaking precedent since the Nixon era.
― Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link
Bernie’s new job is indeed rad and lord please keep the angel of death from grandpa’s door. xposts
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link
I’m not on Twitter so can’t really speak to the online left but it did seem like Biden got clowned pretty hard for leaning into Sinophobia back in the spring and his folks kinda dropped that thread? (for now)
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
Just remember, there is no left
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link
They sounded so reenergized clowning the $2000 $1400 stimulus plan. I think Biden is going to be great for the show. They're back, baby!
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link
Dumb people have been predicting this since March of 2016 and yet...
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link
The "online left" has been pretty consistent in opposing ginning up global conflicts, whether that's Iran, North Korea, China or Russia.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 17 January 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link
Just last week the US and Taiwan exchanged high level diplomats, breaking precedent since the Nixon era.
― Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:57 (two days ago) link
I'm not sure I understand tbh, diplomatic relations with a democracy should be seen as bad by the left because it offends a repressive authoritarian regime that puts minorities in concentration camps?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 17 January 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link
Though symbolic It’s an escalating gesture that will probably to more tense encounters in the region and hawk talk and increased military spending
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link