Twitter C/D

“bean dad was the former tour keyboardist for Harvey Danger” kept going through my head yesterday

strong “drummer from gay dad” vibes

makes me wish i been dead

he was always just being ironic, or didn’t remember what ironic was anymore

― mh, Monday, January 4, 2021 10:53 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah that kind of racist/etc satire where you just yell the racist thing to let everyone know you know what racism is and its bad, and then you receive a pat on the head, feel like thats sort of crossover boomer/gen x energy

Its funny to me that "this used to be ironic racism" is enough to cancel some indie rock moron, but not enough to cancel Vice

Like, I guess the upside is that Zoomers might not even know what Vice is to cancel it

isn’t vice just this amorphous media conglomerate now where the former edgelords are like, board members or just dudes that sit in meetings all day

canceling them would be like canceling the entire CBS network or something at this point

gavin mcginnis got pretty canceled over it

I remember a colleague (guy from Arizona) making a joke of this sort in a bar, one with the n-word in he punchline, as he got to the end he realised that another colleague, a black woman from the Caribbean, was stnding behind him listening. He certainly learned a lesson that day, hope it was the right one.

I mean, Vice’s obnoxious edgelord era and their hiring of people you hated in music editor roles is well documented, but I always saw it through the lens of, like, stupid fashion criticism jokes and bullshit I wasn’t going to read

still not sure what garfs are tbh

does it mean those garfield comic gimmick accounts where they always have the same last panel (smoking a pipe, thrown through a window)?

Like, I guess the upside is that Zoomers might not even know what Vice is to cancel it

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, January 4, 2021 8:05 AM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

A friend of a friend is journalist and was writing a piece about climate and young people for vice and was in a school talking to 17/18 year olds and they either hadn't heard of it or thought it was laughable ok boomer shit

yeah that was my guess tho i was unaware there were enough of them to constitute a clique lol xp

fwiw, I'm still amazed Vice got away with that shit as long as they did.

ppl forget how much of the 00s were just a distilled version of the worst tendencies of the 90s

this also continued well into the early 2010s

some of that stuff from the 90s started all the way back into the 80s.

it's continuing now! there's just somewhat more pushback!

no i have good news, it ended in 2015

racism and other societal ills are only allowed on substack now

Even St. Francis of Assisi would get fp'ed for being "too sanctimonious".

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, January 3, 2021 11:00 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lmao

kinda dig ryan broderick's take

I believe that Twitter is a dying website and that it has entered a period of deep insularity and cultural decline and is now virtually intelligible to outsiders. Put simply, 2021 Twitter is 2015 Tumblr, 2016 Reddit, or 2013 4chan. The only difference is that its hopelessly-addicted user base is made up of journalists, politicians, celebrities, and academics. So we’re forced, as a society, to take Twitter’s inane message board drama more seriously than we would if we were talking about a Something Awful goon building a wildly unsafe house. Toxic Twitter power users have filled vacuums where community moderation should be and now they police the site like warlords, serving up public vigilante justice for their restless and angry followers.

Which is how we end up with Bean Dad.

its been like that for a long time tbf

bean dad prob blew up more than the typical main character just because the name bean dad is so excellent

I listen to the Jennings/Roderick podcast sometimes. It was weird to learn that a lot of people don't like Roderick this much! I thought he was a blowhard but pretty innocuous. Some of the tweets people dug up were pretty rough though.

i wonder when the last time twitter was growing its user base in any real way was gotta be more than five years ago, no real way to know since all these companies juice their stats

Isn’t everyone talking abt bean dad bc he said some super weird and possibly made up shit, and then a few outliers go psycho on him & those ppl are signal boosted and come to represent a ginned up idea that twitter is an overreaction machine ? Idk this seemed like a pretty deserving clusterfuck to me lol the guy’s story was bonkers

the thing twitters always had going for it is that its users are journalists and various other people who are niche famous within their industries, people who have reach outside twitter, which keeps the visibility up via tweets getting shown on tv/sites and whatnot, prob brings them a fair amount of inbound traffic for their advertising, instagram is taking some of that now, but for people who want to talk/fight it cant really compare

twitter should water its roots with blood by banning donald trump

trump is their most famous user they love him

wld be funny if trump switched to the gram and had to post a picture everytime he wanted to say something

he could just use one of those fake trump tweet generators and take a picture of it

lol

Isn’t everyone talking abt bean dad bc he said some super weird and possibly made up shit, and then a few outliers go psycho on him & those ppl are signal boosted and come to represent a ginned up idea that twitter is an overreaction machine ? Idk this seemed like a pretty deserving clusterfuck to me lol the guy’s story was bonkers

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, January 4, 2021 2:19 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah people try to make these things so serious when its 99% idle rubbernecking

i prefer bean dad discourse to tall/short woman discourse

genuine lol that that Broderick (no idea who he is btw) piece is on Substack. Medium must be really mad about this

I miss the blog era too but there's no going back

ryan broderick yeah i know that guy, cool guy

i prefer bean dad discourse to tall/short woman discourse

Beanín nach bfhuil

yeah people try to make these things so serious when its 99% idle rubbernecking

― lag∞n, Monday, January 4, 2021 1:27 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

People on Twitter have always had fun getting "mad" about trivial shit. But over time, I think the general mood on the site has turned sour and more anxious, so even trivial shit feels higher-stakes somehow.

I think the phrase “rooted in pedophilia” was used.

But over time, I think the general mood on the site has turned sour and more anxious, so even trivial shit feels higher-stakes somehow.

― jaymc, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:42 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Hardly just "on the site" now was it

So yeah, like most of these things it’s something I saw on tumblr a decade ago, lol these fucking people.

yeah users moving from tumblr to twitter is an underrated aspect of some of the more truly insane developments in the discourse

I’d seen bean dad retweeted before and he struck me as innocuous gen x npr indie rock dad

kind of wonder how much of people being cranky was that they dislike that archetype

Broderick’s warlord analogy about Twitter is a great one. Absolute utter abdication of responsibility by Twitter dot com management leads to a power structure very similar to the one you see with real-life warlords, with attention as the controlled resource.

all of the were so anti racist that we reinvented segregation stuff is pure tumblr lol

yeah users moving from tumblr to twitter is an underrated aspect of some of the more truly insane developments in the discourse

What furries hath we unleashed