Twitter C/D

that substack essay was good

it’s obvious why this sort of shit is good for twitter, it’s basically like the way espn used to use first take, have some moron blowhard like stephen a smith or skip bayless make a headline, get the athlete’s response, turn the whole thing into a news story. it’s printing money and people are too stupid to realize it’s rotting their brains

they’re giving stephen a smith his own show, right?

the system works

People have always loved irrelevant bullshit, I really don’t understand the hand wringing abt this story ...

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, January 4, 2021 3:41 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

bean dad was good i enjoyed the bean dad experience, the thing that twitter does thats bad is like letting nazis organize, not goofing on some podcaster

and its not even rotting my brain in fact my brain is becoming larger with every post... like a galaxy

and obvs the difference between bean dad and stephen a smith is bean dad is an authentic clown where stephen a is a (brilliant) schtick, twitter gives us the real stuff

—It means that your users are so desperate for your made up internet points that they would consider turning an extremely mundane story about using a can opener into a TWENTY-THREE tweet thread and are also so vicious and insane and bored that they would turn that thread about beans into a national scandal.—

the article is funny cause its infected with the energy it claims to be critiquing, and obvs the bean dad story if true, which its not, is totally freaking psycho and not mundane

i love twitter and have learned an absolute ton following tons of smart and interesting people. also i have no idea wtf “bean dad” is. you lot are insane.

you dont know bean dad and yet already love him, strange

The pulse that my tweet skipped indeed

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Tumblr porn ban truly underrated butterfly effect here

― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, January 4, 2021 7:50 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink_


*ahem* just fyi the ban isn't being as strictly enforced anymore

jumped 'ship

I genuinely thought bean dad was good posting, punchy, kept me interested etc. also even if true I don't think it's that bad, sort of feel like if you have kids you should be allowed to do that shit from time to time, not that I have kids but one can imagine being driven to do such zany things

he definitely posted in the exact style of a guest on this american life or w/e

wrong on both counts sorry kevin your canceled

we shd all be more like mr snrub at all times, knowing what's going on is doing no end of bad

wrong on both counts sorry kevin your canceled

― lag∞n, Monday, January 4, 2021 4:36 PM (nine minutes ago)

wow harsh well this is why I hope I never have kids

mods a canceled is posting

no airplay for double-k

smh even ILH is turning on me over my bean dad opinions

i think at least part of his point is that twitter has almost no control over its user base and whatever the original purpose of twitter was (brief information updates?), it's now degenerated into "here for the trainwreck"

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Why would twitter having control over its user base be a good thing?

so that said user base doesn't engage in fascist shitstorming? and, if you're twitter, because it means your "website" and "business model" are in jeopardy.

jumped 'ship

online communities without gatekeeping p consistently degrade into trainwrecks and spam, whether or not fascism and incitements to terrorism are involved

i would say that "moderation ≠ control" but a mod forced me to post this

iirc ilx was itself created as a petri dish to find out what happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTS0A9V5OvI

Yeah to me that's a lack of moderation, acting on complaints etc. Different issue from Bean dad going off on one, or ppl going off at him xps

bean dad would want us to moderate ourselves

dude is just saying that twitter is broken and everybody knows it; the emergence of "bean dad" is a late stage symptom, not a rosetta stone to explain why/how

i'm bummed that i can't readily find t ewing's thesis about ILX, can somebody help me out here?

There is "guy" on twitter every day in most of its communities xp

If Twitter is broken, that assumes it was ever good or at least better, which is highly questionable.

forks:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2501/S1470785308200043

thanks!

ILX threads frequently compare the current state of the community to its earlier days, often unfavourably: the boards now are supposedly less intelligent, or less friendly, or less interesting than they used to be. These threads are rarely conclusive but testify to the level of engagement
the community fosters, and serve as a vent for individual and collective frustrations. They also demonstrate the fact that ILX has evolved a degree of self-awareness – it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.

it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.

ah, lads, 'tis a grand thing to have a unique culture now, isn't it? it fills one's lungs down to their bottom from sheer pride and lightens one's steps all the day long.

All the problems of a couple of ordinary dads in this crazy world dont amount to a tin of beans is essentially what we are saying here

wow how did I not know about that thesis

feel like maybe at some point social media analysis will have moved past "they think of themselves as a community" or "the old one is broken once the new one is ascendant [repeat every 3-5 years]"

even the most critical posting abt *ean *ad itt it is a trasparent pretext for typing the words *ean *ad because it fels so good

Holy shit! That thesis is awesome! That should be in the ILX FAQ.

feel like maybe at some point social media analysis will have moved past "they think of themselves as a community" or "the old one is broken once the new one is ascendant [repeat every 3-5 years]"

― dean bad (map), Monday, January 4, 2021 2:52 PM (thirty minutes ago)

it won't because unfortunately every new online social space wrongly thinks of itself as a community, even if it's the redditDiscord of an unreleased video game

holy hell, there's a faq?! Just found it with Google. Where is this even linked in the site?

Tom's conclusion wrt moderation is what made me think of it:

ILX was never designed to be a viable business model or to offer lessons to researchers, so a
'business case' drawn from it is necessarily hypothetical. That said, the level of engagement,
participation and participant energy it has generated surely has lessons to offer researchers. This
paper has mostly discussed the effects on content of emergent culture within communities, and
so is intended to be largely of use to people already involved with, or considering running, such
communities.
What, however, is the business case for investing in a long-form community like ILX, whether
from a researcher or brand perspective? After all, they require a large amount of investment. Two
major potential advantages come to mind.
1. An ongoing community in which respondents interact, socialise and influence one another
is likely to create a greater understanding of how ideas and opinions about a brand or topic
spread, develop and change. Ongoing communities, in other words, may be invaluable for
understanding the interaction effects that shape how real-life consumers respond to brands. 9 of 11 4 Oct 2017 11:47:37
2. In a world where respondents are likely to be increasingly time-poor and hard to find,
cultivating and encouraging articulate and interesting research participants is a good longterm investment. A community, with its inevitable build-up of social motivation, is likely to
incentivise members to stay in ways that a traditional research panel cannot. In addition,
the experience of ILX suggests that a long-form community may work as a powerful means
of insight generation on topics with traditionally low 'talkability'.
In conclusion, this paper has tried to show that the problems and virtues of ILX arose from the
way a culture emerged within it, as well as from the specific decisions moderators made or had
imposed upon them by technology. Culture emerging within a community is inevitable; the
consequences of that emergence can and should be managed.

t/s: bean dad vs tot mom

Dating somebody w/recessive traits like blue eyes when you have dominant traits like brown eyes is rooted in the desire to control them

— realhottiepants (@reallyhotpants) January 4, 2021

Writing a thesis on ILX and not mentioning Dom is grounds for expulsion

better FP Tom so he stops posting then

holy hell, there's a faq?! Just found it with Google. Where is this even linked in the site?

suggesting that the FAQ be updated and linked is one of ILX's oldest traditions

we should have an ilx wiki, wouldn't that be a bit of fun.

Would be a good way for me to find out who that Morbs guy is for sure

xp wikilx