—It means that your users are so desperate for your made up internet points that they would consider turning an extremely mundane story about using a can opener into a TWENTY-THREE tweet thread and are also so vicious and insane and bored that they would turn that thread about beans into a national scandal.—
the article is funny cause its infected with the energy it claims to be critiquing, and obvs the bean dad story if true, which its not, is totally freaking psycho and not mundane
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link
i love twitter and have learned an absolute ton following tons of smart and interesting people. also i have no idea wtf “bean dad” is. you lot are insane.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link
you dont know bean dad and yet already love him, strange
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
The pulse that my tweet skipped indeed
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link
_Tumblr porn ban truly underrated butterfly effect here― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, January 4, 2021 7:50 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink_*ahem* just fyi the ban isn't being as strictly enforced anymore
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link
jumped 'ship
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link
I genuinely thought bean dad was good posting, punchy, kept me interested etc. also even if true I don't think it's that bad, sort of feel like if you have kids you should be allowed to do that shit from time to time, not that I have kids but one can imagine being driven to do such zany things
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link
he definitely posted in the exact style of a guest on this american life or w/e
― mh, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
wrong on both counts sorry kevin your canceled
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
we shd all be more like mr snrub at all times, knowing what's going on is doing no end of bad
― mark s, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, January 4, 2021 4:36 PM (nine minutes ago)
wow harsh well this is why I hope I never have kids
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link
mods a canceled is posting
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
no airplay for double-k
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
smh even ILH is turning on me over my bean dad opinions
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
i think at least part of his point is that twitter has almost no control over its user base and whatever the original purpose of twitter was (brief information updates?), it's now degenerated into "here for the trainwreck"
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 bookmarkflaglink
Why would twitter having control over its user base be a good thing?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link
so that said user base doesn't engage in fascist shitstorming? and, if you're twitter, because it means your "website" and "business model" are in jeopardy.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link
online communities without gatekeeping p consistently degrade into trainwrecks and spam, whether or not fascism and incitements to terrorism are involved
― shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
i would say that "moderation ≠ control" but a mod forced me to post this
― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
iirc ilx was itself created as a petri dish to find out what happenshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTS0A9V5OvI
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
Yeah to me that's a lack of moderation, acting on complaints etc. Different issue from Bean dad going off on one, or ppl going off at him xps
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link
bean dad would want us to moderate ourselves
― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
dude is just saying that twitter is broken and everybody knows it; the emergence of "bean dad" is a late stage symptom, not a rosetta stone to explain why/how
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link
i'm bummed that i can't readily find t ewing's thesis about ILX, can somebody help me out here?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:18 (three years ago) link
There is "guy" on twitter every day in most of its communities xp
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
If Twitter is broken, that assumes it was ever good or at least better, which is highly questionable.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link
forks:https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2501/S1470785308200043
― jaymc, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link
thanks!
ILX threads frequently compare the current state of the community to its earlier days, often unfavourably: the boards now are supposedly less intelligent, or less friendly, or less interesting than they used to be. These threads are rarely conclusive but testify to the level of engagementthe community fosters, and serve as a vent for individual and collective frustrations. They also demonstrate the fact that ILX has evolved a degree of self-awareness – it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link
it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.
ah, lads, 'tis a grand thing to have a unique culture now, isn't it? it fills one's lungs down to their bottom from sheer pride and lightens one's steps all the day long.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link
All the problems of a couple of ordinary dads in this crazy world dont amount to a tin of beans is essentially what we are saying here
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link
wow how did I not know about that thesis
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link
feel like maybe at some point social media analysis will have moved past "they think of themselves as a community" or "the old one is broken once the new one is ascendant [repeat every 3-5 years]"
― dean bad (map), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link
even the most critical posting abt *ean *ad itt it is a trasparent pretext for typing the words *ean *ad because it fels so good
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 4 January 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link
Holy shit! That thesis is awesome! That should be in the ILX FAQ.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 4 January 2021 23:16 (three years ago) link
― dean bad (map), Monday, January 4, 2021 2:52 PM (thirty minutes ago)
it won't because unfortunately every new online social space wrongly thinks of itself as a community, even if it's the redditDiscord of an unreleased video game
― is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 4 January 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link
holy hell, there's a faq?! Just found it with Google. Where is this even linked in the site?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 4 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
Tom's conclusion wrt moderation is what made me think of it:
ILX was never designed to be a viable business model or to offer lessons to researchers, so a'business case' drawn from it is necessarily hypothetical. That said, the level of engagement,participation and participant energy it has generated surely has lessons to offer researchers. Thispaper has mostly discussed the effects on content of emergent culture within communities, andso is intended to be largely of use to people already involved with, or considering running, suchcommunities.What, however, is the business case for investing in a long-form community like ILX, whetherfrom a researcher or brand perspective? After all, they require a large amount of investment. Twomajor potential advantages come to mind.1. An ongoing community in which respondents interact, socialise and influence one anotheris likely to create a greater understanding of how ideas and opinions about a brand or topicspread, develop and change. Ongoing communities, in other words, may be invaluable forunderstanding the interaction effects that shape how real-life consumers respond to brands. 9 of 11 4 Oct 2017 11:47:372. In a world where respondents are likely to be increasingly time-poor and hard to find,cultivating and encouraging articulate and interesting research participants is a good longterm investment. A community, with its inevitable build-up of social motivation, is likely toincentivise members to stay in ways that a traditional research panel cannot. In addition,the experience of ILX suggests that a long-form community may work as a powerful meansof insight generation on topics with traditionally low 'talkability'.In conclusion, this paper has tried to show that the problems and virtues of ILX arose from theway a culture emerged within it, as well as from the specific decisions moderators made or hadimposed upon them by technology. Culture emerging within a community is inevitable; theconsequences of that emergence can and should be managed.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link
t/s: bean dad vs tot mom
― kinder, Monday, 4 January 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link
Dating somebody w/recessive traits like blue eyes when you have dominant traits like brown eyes is rooted in the desire to control them— realhottiepants (@reallyhotpants) January 4, 2021
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link
Writing a thesis on ILX and not mentioning Dom is grounds for expulsion
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link
better FP Tom so he stops posting then
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link
suggesting that the FAQ be updated and linked is one of ILX's oldest traditions
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
we should have an ilx wiki, wouldn't that be a bit of fun.
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:43 (three years ago) link
Would be a good way for me to find out who that Morbs guy is for sure
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link
xp wikilx
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link
one day this place will be full of people like me who have no idea where they are or how they got here
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:50 (three years ago) link
Join wilx booth
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
https://www.ilxor.com/faq.html
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 10:53 (three years ago) link
However: Please do not revive old threads if you have nothing new to add to them. Bumping a thread merely because it makes you laugh, or you wish to bring it to other users' attention, is bad form, generally speaking.
Tripe
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 11:26 (three years ago) link