Twitter C/D

i'm bummed that i can't readily find t ewing's thesis about ILX, can somebody help me out here?

There is "guy" on twitter every day in most of its communities xp

If Twitter is broken, that assumes it was ever good or at least better, which is highly questionable.

forks:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2501/S1470785308200043

thanks!

ILX threads frequently compare the current state of the community to its earlier days, often unfavourably: the boards now are supposedly less intelligent, or less friendly, or less interesting than they used to be. These threads are rarely conclusive but testify to the level of engagement
the community fosters, and serve as a vent for individual and collective frustrations. They also demonstrate the fact that ILX has evolved a degree of self-awareness – it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.

it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.

ah, lads, 'tis a grand thing to have a unique culture now, isn't it? it fills one's lungs down to their bottom from sheer pride and lightens one's steps all the day long.

All the problems of a couple of ordinary dads in this crazy world dont amount to a tin of beans is essentially what we are saying here

wow how did I not know about that thesis

feel like maybe at some point social media analysis will have moved past "they think of themselves as a community" or "the old one is broken once the new one is ascendant [repeat every 3-5 years]"

even the most critical posting abt *ean *ad itt it is a trasparent pretext for typing the words *ean *ad because it fels so good

Holy shit! That thesis is awesome! That should be in the ILX FAQ.

feel like maybe at some point social media analysis will have moved past "they think of themselves as a community" or "the old one is broken once the new one is ascendant [repeat every 3-5 years]"

― dean bad (map), Monday, January 4, 2021 2:52 PM (thirty minutes ago)

it won't because unfortunately every new online social space wrongly thinks of itself as a community, even if it's the redditDiscord of an unreleased video game

holy hell, there's a faq?! Just found it with Google. Where is this even linked in the site?

Tom's conclusion wrt moderation is what made me think of it:

ILX was never designed to be a viable business model or to offer lessons to researchers, so a
'business case' drawn from it is necessarily hypothetical. That said, the level of engagement,
participation and participant energy it has generated surely has lessons to offer researchers. This
paper has mostly discussed the effects on content of emergent culture within communities, and
so is intended to be largely of use to people already involved with, or considering running, such
communities.
What, however, is the business case for investing in a long-form community like ILX, whether
from a researcher or brand perspective? After all, they require a large amount of investment. Two
major potential advantages come to mind.
1. An ongoing community in which respondents interact, socialise and influence one another
is likely to create a greater understanding of how ideas and opinions about a brand or topic
spread, develop and change. Ongoing communities, in other words, may be invaluable for
understanding the interaction effects that shape how real-life consumers respond to brands. 9 of 11 4 Oct 2017 11:47:37
2. In a world where respondents are likely to be increasingly time-poor and hard to find,
cultivating and encouraging articulate and interesting research participants is a good longterm investment. A community, with its inevitable build-up of social motivation, is likely to
incentivise members to stay in ways that a traditional research panel cannot. In addition,
the experience of ILX suggests that a long-form community may work as a powerful means
of insight generation on topics with traditionally low 'talkability'.
In conclusion, this paper has tried to show that the problems and virtues of ILX arose from the
way a culture emerged within it, as well as from the specific decisions moderators made or had
imposed upon them by technology. Culture emerging within a community is inevitable; the
consequences of that emergence can and should be managed.

t/s: bean dad vs tot mom

Dating somebody w/recessive traits like blue eyes when you have dominant traits like brown eyes is rooted in the desire to control them

— realhottiepants (@reallyhotpants) January 4, 2021

Writing a thesis on ILX and not mentioning Dom is grounds for expulsion

better FP Tom so he stops posting then

holy hell, there's a faq?! Just found it with Google. Where is this even linked in the site?

suggesting that the FAQ be updated and linked is one of ILX's oldest traditions

we should have an ilx wiki, wouldn't that be a bit of fun.

Would be a good way for me to find out who that Morbs guy is for sure

xp wikilx

one day this place will be full of people like me who have no idea where they are or how they got here

one day this place will be full of people like me who have no idea where they are or how they got here

Join wilx booth

https://www.ilxor.com/faq.html

However: Please do not revive old threads if you have nothing new to add to them. Bumping a thread merely because it makes you laugh, or you wish to bring it to other users' attention, is bad form, generally speaking.

Tripe

Would ilx fp socrates now

Socrates was the original "Just askin' questions" guy

pic.twitter.com/P77xI0PwmH

— Fuck it, mask on (@JackDexterity) January 9, 2021

who can add me to the ILXOR CUNCE list?

classic when centrists are clearly exposed for what they are.

The upside to banning fascists is seeing who complains loudest about losing their precious fashy followers without realizing what’s happening pic.twitter.com/ASVET7UPxD

— Slade (@Slade) January 9, 2021

I looked at Rachel Campos-Duffy’s Twitter looking for lols and ended up reporting her for harassment

that’ll happen

If just one of the stupid takes could reference hundreds of twitter employees in open revolt against their employer hosting a far right president. Instead the man who owns a website pretends not to know how websites work. pic.twitter.com/BTgsk0mnbH

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) January 9, 2021

because it's morning time and i'm procrastinating, here is a style guide/grammar/twitter/AITA thing that came up overnight for me. it all started with this tweet:

Eric Trump says “his father will leave the presidency with a powerful brand backed by millions of voters who will follow him “to the ends of the Earth”...he created the greatest political movement in American history and his opportunities are endless.” https://t.co/i0ZUBfwxp2

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) January 13, 2021

I didn't think too much of it, but saw a couple people commenting about the "Brand" part of it. Eric Trump apparently said his "father will leave the presidency with a powerful brand". Which was such an asshole thing to say that i had to go read the original article:

NEW YORK (AP) — The PGA canceled its tournament at his golf course. Banks say they won’t lend to him anymore. New York City is looking to end his contract to operate the Central Park skating rink.

Hits to President Donald Trump’s business empire since the deadly riots at the U.S. Capitol are part of a liberal “cancel culture,” his son, Eric, told The Associated Press on Tuesday, saying his father will leave the presidency with a powerful brand backed by millions of voters who will follow him “to the ends of the Earth.”

SNIP-other things that are boring-SNIP

...“You have a man who would get followed to the ends of the Earth by a hundred million Americans,” Eric Trump said. “He created the greatest political movement in American history and his opportunities are endless.”

reviewing the article, i noticed that trump never said "brand". he did insinuate that, and it's fair to paraphrase him as talking about the trump brand. but Begnaud put that part in quotes, as if Eric Trump said that. and then, since most people don't read beyond the headline/twitter summary, the part that stood out to them was "brand". lots of this stuff:

"A powerful brand" pic.twitter.com/pwA8cGBbvB

— trish (@omerta22PL) January 13, 2021

not a huge deal, but i thought that was misleading, so i put on my most annoying, pedantic, please-go-away-myself voice i could possibly muster, and typed

That's not right. The part you're quoting is not what Eric Trump said, in quotes, in the article. You're quoting him for the part that the writer wrote. I have no doubt that it's materially accurate, I'm just saying - please don't quote things that aren't quotes.

— Z_tbd (@weinventyou) January 13, 2021

but THEN it turns out that

He's quoting the writer, not the actual interview. That's standard when retweeting an article to distinguish between what's said in the article from the retweeter's interpretation of what was said. It's a valid quote.

— GreenGenii 🍀 (@GreenGenii) January 13, 2021

&

Please read....oh, just ANY style manual, Z_tbd.

— Patrick *Black Lives Matter* (@PennGos) January 13, 2021

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so anyway, don't worry i don't care much about this! i was drunk last night and being pedantic, and then this morning i'm seeing these replies and it's more like a question for Grammar Girl or whatever. but i'm just curious, is this how you all use quotes

i just want to go back to the original tweet and underline the parts of it that are direct quotes from Eric Trump:

Eric Trump says “his father will leave the presidency with a powerful brand backed by millions of voters who will follow him “to the ends of the Earth”...he created the greatest political movement in American history and his opportunities are endless.”

and a related question: if this is ok or acceptable (on twitter or elsewhere), how do you delineate which part is the paraphrased part vs the direct quote, if they're both in quotes? i guess just go to the original article and figure it out? maybe that's the twitter compromise

I don't see their point - if he's quote-paraphrasing the writer then the "Eric Trump says" part should be in quotes too to make at least slightly clear the distinction.

it's bad use of quotes imo

yeah i mean theres rules and whatnot but the point of it all is to be clear which the original tweet clearly isnt

eric trump says "eric trump didnt not say this"

original tweet is misleading and its use of quotes is incoherent, YNTA

yeah that's quotes within quotes in a misleading way, it seems like Eric is quoting someone else with 'to the ends of the earth' there.

Not interested in Human leg pic.twitter.com/PLmbhxiECh

— the goat of all time (@bobby) January 24, 2021

Tweetbot 6 is out. Good to see it getting some new features, glad to throw them a few bucks to get a good chronological timeline and a few new features

I’m going INSANE!! The first image is the tweets she is talking about!!!! pic.twitter.com/TdIWzPHjCZ

— Fairy Gothmother, MD (@jenny2x4) January 31, 2021

Bin Laden and Gary Glitter trending 🤔

Twitter sent my lockscreen a notification yesterday asking me if I wanted to follow a trending topic: The Sopranos

wtf

i mean when have I ever evinced an interest in this 20-year-old television show??

It's a good show!