Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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W33d and music kit from Gumtree are pretty much my only cash purchases nowadays tbf

(the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:08 (three years ago) link

My last use case for cash disappeared when I started paying for w33d with M0n3ro.

I have no couch and I must stream (NotEnough), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:13 (three years ago) link

Here's one though:

Can't play audio directly from a Mac through Microsoft Teams. I have had to do this (and endure this) on a regular basis since lockdowns. Every time it sounds like call-waiting music for the dental surgery because it's being played and received through laptop speakers and mic.
Been chatting to our tech team about it, and there are work arounds, but they're fiddly and not that easy to do.

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:14 (three years ago) link

I prefer cash and pretty much always used it until the pandemic, haven't used any since last March.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link

i have admittedly been walking around with the same tenner in my wallet for several weeks now

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:33 (three years ago) link

I've had a fiver in my wallet since last March!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

Three fivers growing fur in mine since same

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link

The fervour of a furry fiver

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:03 (three years ago) link

I'm a huge Kevin Grisham fan...

Been using cash loads since Covid, as have been getting more things second-hand from people in my village. I've even bartered with packets of flour. There's a bit of a 'things Amazon incorrectly delivered'/'things I accidentally ordered too much of from Ocado/ 'dumb things my online grocery substituted' market going on.

kinder, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:04 (three years ago) link

fwiw i still practice cash tipping when i can because when i worked for tips this was very much preferred to credit card tips.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:04 (three years ago) link

Something that just happened: My whole screen went blank while typing something and my heart leapt into my mouth thinking the computer had crashed. Turned out it was one of those "hot corner" things which I hadn't turned off. What the blazes and why would I want this to happen when I accidentally nudge my mouse into the far corner of my screen??

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link

companies have to pay for credit-card processing so some small local businesses are cash-only to avoid those extra charges

na (NA), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link

> why would I want this to happen when I accidentally nudge my mouse into the far corner of my screen?

was company policy here, back when we worked in an office, to lock screen when away from computer. there were also tales of people comming back from breaks to find 'comedy' emails sent from their accounts / odd things ordered from amazon. oh, my sides.

koogs, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:27 (three years ago) link

Some restaurants, even busy successful ones, chose to be cash only for that reason. Also some do to so it’s easier to cheat on taxes.

There was a movement recently of restaurants going cashless but they got pushback from people saying it’s unfair to mostly low income people who don’t have credit cards. A lot of places in NY went cashless and then switched back.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link

Specifically, being "cashless" was banned by municipal statute (and rightly so!).

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

The prices on everything from the parking meters outside to the vending machine in the breakroom are higher for card purchases than they are for cash.

pplains, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

The heck do you need cash for

― Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, January 19, 2021 8:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

weed still illegal in new york for some reason

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

My friends who own small businesses pay credit card processing fees (1.3-3.5%) that eat into their margins and are always appreciative to get cash.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

i know you made the point about sex workers taking venmo but my weed guys do not

nyc itself has been a haven for cash-only businesses to a degree that other places potentially do not experience xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

weed from clean shiny shops with 100s of products is cash-based in America too, bcz credit card companies can't process it while it's not legal nationally

― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:05 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

damn that'll teach me to read the thread

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

(it won't)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

it's been legal in California for years and the banking regulations (based on federal law) are a major headache and there are even webinars

sarahell, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

Also some do to so it’s easier to cheat on taxes.

yes, the donut shop model. Also, some workers are best paid in cash due to immigration issues / complications involving government benefits etc. If the business receives cash from customers, it is easier to pay the workers in cash.

sarahell, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

We use PayPal, but that's because of DC weirdness.

The law prohibits selling w33d. It does, however, permit giving it. So you buy something else, like a piece of art or a night in an airbnb, or (in our case) baked goods. The w33d is included as a thank-you gift. It is very convenient.

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

heh I had a friend who ran a bar in Tennessee that way after hours -- a $3 coke with a free shot of bourbon

sarahell, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

two recurring Internet browser gripes:

* used to be every time i wanted to download a file, i got a "save as" dialog box, where i got to choose the path as well as the filename. these days shit just goes wherever it fucking wants, with whatever garbage filename it started with.

or, if i do get the choice of where it goes --- this one is probably Windows-specific --- the system is constantly trying to outsmart me by going to different directories for each thing i download. i think this is windows going "aha, the last file you downloaded with a PNG extension was to THIS directory, six months ago..." aaaaaarrrrrghhhh

* no consistency anymore about whether the 'back' button will actually take me to the previous thing i had on my screen, or like eight steps back, because, surprise! the thing i was looking at was, invisibly, in some kind of nested sub-window and i was supposed to hunt for and click a tiny "X" or "Close" button somewhere. fuck you!!!

The "save as" thing can usually be configured in the browser settings, at least that's the case in Firefox and Chrome. You can define a different behavior for each type of file (like, if it's a .avi always ask the user but if it's a PDF open it within the browser or open a specific application etc.)

Dinsdale, Monday, 1 March 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

lol my company has some programs that only work in Internet Explorer. it doesn't work on Microsoft Edge.

do you know how more involved it is to launch IE on Windows 10? it requires three steps.

(in this case, the backward step = my dumb company making something IE only in 2021)

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 March 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

I'm finding this new tabbing system on Chrome for Android especially confusing and infuriating. Now we've got tabs within tabs, but I can't seem to open a link in a new tab, just an incognito tab??

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Monday, 1 March 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

i hate the way the tabs work now. i know how to use them but...it's annoying.

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 March 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

thanks, dinsdale, i'll take a look!

along the same lines: i disabled the chrome android tab groups or tab clusters or whatever they're called, because they were driving me insane. i can't remember how. but it can be done!

no consistency anymore about whether the 'back' button will actually take me to the previous thing i had on my screen

if people embed a photo on ILX that's from a facebook-owned site, it won't embed for me. if I right-click to view the photo, and then discover that it was on a facebook site, I am unable to return to the thread bcz facebook trick the browser into thinking you were never on the world wide web, why would you want to go off our platform, you don't need a back button, there was never a back button here. looking at this photo is the only think you have ever wanted to do on the internet.

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Monday, 1 March 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

back button? it doesn’t look like anything to me

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 March 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

I've complained about that before. the trick is to open in new tab. then just close the tab.

koogs, Monday, 1 March 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

I read ILX in firefox

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Monday, 1 March 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

speaking of tabs, it used to be easier to get to the url of images via google ... it does reduce my ability and desire to image bomb threads so, maybe this is a good thing?

sarahell, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 01:18 (three years ago) link

this is how you disable the annoying tab groups on android chrome
https://piunikaweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Tab-Groups-Chrome.jpg

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link

Plenty of good reasons to change search engines already, add it to the pile

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

sic, me too. from memory, open in new tab is just another option on right click menu.

sarahell, use duck duck go for image searches (i think that's what sic's post above was suggesting, but the context got lost because of the interruption)

koogs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:27 (three years ago) link

yeah, I set ddg to be my browser default for searching

No “new tab” right-click image option for me! but I also probably haven’t updated the install since 2017, possibly 2013

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:38 (three years ago) link

hidden text feature on ilx

Punk's Daft (onimo), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:01 (three years ago) link

koogs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:03 (three years ago) link

Google search results for straightforward, one word answer queries being a whole page of links with nothing but SEO clickbait text as a preview, so you have to click a link and navigate the cookies/newsletter/notifications gauntlet, plus one handy promoted "Google snippet" which confidently answers the wrong question with something that isn't true

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 11:09 (three years ago) link

the garbageness of search results is def a whole huge category for this thread at this point. has anybody besides ILX noticed? i feel like it should be on the front page of Time magazine with a worried headline and a photo of a frustrated person at the keyboard, head in their hands. "Searching: What's Gone Wrong?"

honkin' on bobo, honkin' with my feet ten feet off of beale (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 12:05 (three years ago) link

as noted, just stop using google. we all switched to google bcz it was good, it’s okay to switch away bcz it sucks!

armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 12:12 (three years ago) link

i have a similar if not identical set of problems with duckduckgo

honkin' on bobo, honkin' with my feet ten feet off of beale (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 12:20 (three years ago) link

but i'm also saying, this problem with Google should be famous at this point, ppl shd be leaving it in droves, seeing someone Googling shd be like seeing grandpa using Yahoo or Bing or whatever, and i don't think that's happening.

honkin' on bobo, honkin' with my feet ten feet off of beale (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 12:21 (three years ago) link

yah true

ddg isn’t as good as peak google was, but it’s vastly better than current goog

armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link

Wait, what's ddg. What should I be using instead of google?

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 12:53 (three years ago) link

duck duck go

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link


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