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Due to only slight interest in the band via classic rock radio I didn't realize that Benjamin Orr sang lots of the Cars' hits. I always assumed it was just Ric Ocasek, the only guy in the band I could recognize by sight. Relatedly, I discovered extremely late what a major fox Orr was.

This was me but with The Beautiful South. Only recently learned they had a male singer other than Paul Heaton. No opinion on his vulpinity.

mahb, Thursday, 21 January 2021 12:36 (three years ago) link

xpost Many years back my wife and I were at the movies, and while I can't remember what movie it was, beforehand was the trailer for "MacGruber," which had a fleeting "upper decker" joke in which I think he defines it, and my wife cracked up so much, for several hysterical minutes, that she almost had to leave the theater.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:01 (three years ago) link

Heaton brought the second drummer from the Housemartins over to the South just for his voice, but wrote fewer and fewer songs for him as the band went on. A Little Time is a big single that the other bloke is male lead on, off the top of my head.

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

Stanley Burrell was an 11-year-old batboy with the Oakland A's in the early '70s.

Reggie Jackson thought the kid looked so much like Hank Aaron that he started calling him "Hammer" and that's where MC Hammer got his name. pic.twitter.com/ShCxY3Hnc1

— Mike Beauvais (@MikeBeauvais) January 22, 2021

mookieproof, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

great story

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

Mind blown

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

proper

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

I've just realised the correct phrase is "whet your appetite" and how did that just occur to me?

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link

wait what did you think it was?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah?!

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

Wet, obviously. I think that's probably the only phrase where I actually do use the hw- sound.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:37 (three years ago) link

As in wet your whistle or whet your wistle.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link

As for whetting the baby's head ...

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:39 (three years ago) link

Yeah I guess I've not thought about it much but unconsciously wd've used "wet"

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:40 (three years ago) link

Wouldve never occurred to me but im from an area where wh can as easily serve as a v so

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link

“wet” is also 90s slang for shooting someone so now I am imagining someone going “I’m hungry” and then firing a gun into their stomach

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link

Now I'm picturing "Now I'm Gonna Wet Ya" is about Cube being hungry

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 January 2021 14:16 (three years ago) link

"I wet myself"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link

Whettin' up in Whetstone

eating a jester in the blacksmith's shop (Matt #2), Saturday, 23 January 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link

wet is also slang for weed dipped in formaldehyde, aka The Big Lurch

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Saturday, 23 January 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

and Big Lurch is a rapper that ate part of his g/f!

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link

not his, his roomate's g/f.

Really sad, that story

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Saturday, 23 January 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

Just heard that Laura Papen was a scientologist fro listening to Leah Remini on Louis Theroux's podcast Grounded.
JUst been watching through the last series of Orange is the New Black in which she features .

Stevolende, Saturday, 23 January 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

wet your appetite = mouth watering vs whet your appetite = sharpen your hunger
both seem reasonable to me

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

whetstone is one that sharpens other things.

I just saw that there is an archaic noun form of whet as an appetiser a thing to sharpen one's appetite

Stevolende, Saturday, 23 January 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link

which means that you could eat an appetiser as a whet apparently. Hadn't seen that specific formulation before.

Stevolende, Saturday, 23 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

whetstone is one that sharpens other things.

It's an area in London too.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link

The neighbourhood where Bosom Manor's several seasons unfold.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Saturday, 23 January 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

That immigrants only make up 3.5% of the world population.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

Sebastian Bach was barely in Skid Row for 9 years, his first replacement lasted 16

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:28 (three years ago) link

As a kid I loved seeing the video for Barnes & Barnes' "Fish Heads" on Muchmusic, but only today did I learn that it originally aired on SNL and that the star/director of the video is Bill Paxton.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 08:16 (three years ago) link

!!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 10:04 (three years ago) link

I never really paid a lot of attention to Matthew Sweet, outside his handful of singles that were omnipresent on alt-rock radio back in the early and mid 90s, and I always knew he had some pretty great guitar solos. I think I might have known at one time that Richard Lloyd played the solo on "Sick of Myself", but I didn't know until I read Lloyd's book last year just how much he played with Sweet. Blew me away to see the dude had both Lloyd and Robert Quine playing guitar on so many of his albums.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 January 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

Made me listen to "Sick of Myself" for the first time in about two decades, thanks!

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

I recently learned that actor Russ Tamblyn (famous for his roles in West Side Story, Twin Peaks, and etc) also wrote experimental poetry and is featured in a few esoteric journals from the 70s and 80s.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link

I never really paid a lot of attention to Matthew Sweet, outside his handful of singles that were omnipresent on alt-rock radio back in the early and mid 90s, and I always knew he had some pretty great guitar solos. I think I might have known at one time that Richard Lloyd played the solo on "Sick of Myself", but I didn't know until I read Lloyd's book last year just how much he played with Sweet. Blew me away to see the dude had both Lloyd and Robert Quine playing guitar on so many of his albums.

Think he would also use Ivan Julian in a pinch.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

I recently learned that actor Russ Tamblyn (famous for his roles in West Side Story, Twin Peaks, and etc) also wrote experimental poetry and is featured in a few esoteric journals from the 70s and 80s.

And his brother was the singer/keyboard player in the Standells.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link

Tbr, he was fine as hell in his heyday. Would smash.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

That "Beatlemania" was not the first "celebrity + mania" construction. It was preceded by 150 years by "Byromania," for Lord Byron.

Secondary realization: Byromania is not a play on "pyromania" as the latter word wasn't in the language for at least two more decades.

Josefa, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link

Maybe it was the other way round!

kicked off mumsnet for speaking my mind (Matt #2), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link

Lisztania was coined by phoenix in the 1800s

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Sunday, 31 January 2021 11:40 (three years ago) link

Ha l meant to type ‘lusitania’

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Sunday, 31 January 2021 11:42 (three years ago) link

Seriously, the term "Lisztomania" is by Heinrich Heine, 1844.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

phony lisztania has bitten the dust

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link

Sense of "fad, craze, enthusiasm resembling mania, eager or uncontrollable desire" is by 1680s, from French manie in this sense. Sometimes nativized in Middle English as manye. Used since 1500s as the second element in compounds expressing particular types of madness (such as nymphomania, 1775; kleptomania, 1830; megalomania, 1890), originally in Medical Latin, in imitation of Greek, which had a few such compounds, mostly post-classical: gynaikomania (women), hippomania (horses), etc.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/mania

I believed 'tulip mania' (Dutch: tulpenmanie) was used either already during or shortly afterwards the actual 17th century tulip craze, but I can't find a source to confirms this right now.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 February 2021 09:40 (three years ago) link

ergotmania not a medieval dance craze then?

I know Lisztomania is a film with Roger Daltrey as the titular musical hero named after his fandom.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link

I have no idea how I never realized that Joan of Arc in Bill & Ted was Jane Wiedlin.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

She was great! Also in Clue.

Nhex, Monday, 1 February 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

I learned these things because I noticed while watching Star Trek IV that she had an out-of-the-blue five-second cameo as a face on a screen and then discovered that she had an actual filmography.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

I believed 'tulip mania' (Dutch: _tulpenmanie_) was used either already during or shortly afterwards the actual 17th century tulip craze, but I can't find a source to confirms this right now.


there is a 1640 painting by Jan Brueghel de Jong that’s titled Allegorie der Tulipomanie, but again the issue is probably whether the painter named it that himself or it was given that name at a later point in time (seems feasible, but I’m not an expert)

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link


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