Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here

many things are human inventions that have hardened over time

in the proverbial epistemic cigar box

what's the opposite of reification and how do you make it happen

Idealisation.

Some things have gotten better, others have gotten worse.

Just like that.

Although if you go by the recently locked thread that shall remain unnamed, I'd say we're doing better all around, gen Xers/boomers be damned.

lol cigar box

deathdr0ne?

Ground control to Captain Tom

Heh. Have you ever read this? https://ultimateclassicrock.com/david-bowie-frank-zappa-adrian-belew/

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lol!

you guys know that consuming media to the point where you can be encyclopedic about these things is bad for your backs right

dude im 60

Every year it's the proverbial blind men feeling their way around an elephant

important imo to identify the language of ppl who low-key enable abuse regardless of whether they are women or not, that's mainly the purpose my post served

I hate that I guessed who wrote this immediately without clicking to confirm

Brad I apologize, I should have just let your post be the final word

no need to apologize to me!!! i thought you were otm

interesting tactics

it's unfortunate when your publication is calling out a sexual predator and your advertising service places an ad for that predator's music in the story ... it's uh, there's gotta be a fairly simple tech solution to this

the effective solution would probably be to employ a human

He should do more genre excercises, who doesn't enjoy a good Cornish pastiche.

The dad joke amnesty is still on I hope.

Leamington Spar!

Don't leave that thing in here. It will attract mice.

― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1mXo0qnJ28

where's that Dale Cornish joke from?

Aphex Twin thread?

oh i won't go there.

There's no way lads. Cmon.

oh shit Tottenham concede again?

right now they can concede when they aren't even playing

we plays games of 'lops to avoid the depression

for goodness sake a splash of Old Spice does the same job!

Old Spice is actually named as an example of how men’s fragrance can be both cheap and great-smelling in the legendary Perfumes: the Guide, but as with anything else in life, you like what you like...

Olfactory Resources for Dummies

what’s the classic Chanel fragrance that smells like a urinal cake?

No 5

A little bit of

No 1, surely?

idk it kind of sounds like you never grew up past 14 ;-)

How many helicopter rides a year do you think he will take in retirement?

The Parsee came down from his palm-tree and recited the following Sloka, which, as you have not heard, I will now proceed to relate:

Them that takes cakes
Which the Parsee-man bakes
Makes dreadful mistakes.

And he put on his hat, from which the rays of the sun were reflected in more-than-oriental splendour.

If that's about my post, I agree that there's a fair amount of othering and racist language in the Just So Stories, though it still doesn't feel as deliberately malignant to me as Roald Dahl's stuff. Kipling was a product of his time, and definitely had some ingrained racism that shows up in the Just So Stories and some of the poems, but imo Kim, the Jungle Books, and many (though not all) of the Indian stories - the fiction that he put a lot of love and thought into - put him light-years ahead of other white Victorians on issues of race, religion, and culture.

Maybe I'm breaking an unwritten law of ilx (what Kipling would call an Error in the Fourth Dimension) by responding here, but I wrote two theses on Kipling, love talking about him, and don't want to come across as ignoring or downplaying his problematic side. I keep wanting to start a discussion about him in the Kipling thread, but I wasn't sure if anyone would be interested.

i would be interested in reading that though i wouldn't have anything to contribute

xp definitely do it, I’ll share some pictures of a 40s edition of Kim I own

Kipling defended the Jallianwala Bagh / Amritsar massacre which even Churchill condemned so I can't believe his racial politics were better than most regardless of what else he wrote

Kipling was a very strange, screwed-up, two-halves sort of person. His expressed political beliefs were very conservative; his fiction-writing was overall very progressive and compassionate. There's not a lot of overlap. If he were around today, he'd be one of those people with great long-form writing and a toxic Twitter personality.

I cannot and will not defend Kipling as a person, or his racial politics. But good gravy, that writing. The cadence, the mannered looseness, the richness, the humor. It was an indelible part of my childhood and probably shapes some portion of how I think to this day.

It wasn't intended as a direct response to a particular post or specific line of discussion here, by Lily Dale or anyone. Hence, putting it here