Kipling defended the Jallianwala Bagh / Amritsar massacre which even Churchill condemned so I can't believe his racial politics were better than most regardless of what else he wrote
― Left, Thursday, 11 February 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link
Kipling was a very strange, screwed-up, two-halves sort of person. His expressed political beliefs were very conservative; his fiction-writing was overall very progressive and compassionate. There's not a lot of overlap. If he were around today, he'd be one of those people with great long-form writing and a toxic Twitter personality.
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 11 February 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
I cannot and will not defend Kipling as a person, or his racial politics. But good gravy, that writing. The cadence, the mannered looseness, the richness, the humor. It was an indelible part of my childhood and probably shapes some portion of how I think to this day.
It wasn't intended as a direct response to a particular post or specific line of discussion here, by Lily Dale or anyone. Hence, putting it here
― 4 QAnon Blondes (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 February 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link
Having a little moment, are we?
― scampsite (darraghmac), Friday, 12 February 2021 10:03 (three years ago) link
lmfao
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 15 February 2021 03:40 (three years ago) link
Endearingly exotic thread.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link
The snow thread?
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
Yep, although now that I’ve just found out that at least 17 people have died it’s less ‘endearing’. Mostly I’m just fascinated by the possibility of life without snow, it’s unfathomable from where I’m standing.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link
17 people on the thread have died?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
RIP
― lord of the ting tings (map), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link
damn, that's a lotta threads we have to start or bump
― sarahell, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link
😏
― scampsite (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
inaccurate tho?
― imago, Friday, 19 February 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/vclId.gif
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 19 February 2021 13:25 (three years ago) link
not having a great time in my life right now and and I am oversensitive to stuff at the best of times so probably best if I just stay off here for a bit if people are going to be like this.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 19 February 2021 13:28 (three years ago) link
Stay classy
― scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link
My thoughts exactly. Genuinely shocked.
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
carabiners on belt loops are fine idk?
― sarahell, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
didn't even have to open up the thread, saw the 'last posted by' and knew instantly
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
Not entirely fair tbh
― scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
(my comment was not related to the two above it, gah i hate this thread sometimes)
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
Heh its an issue def bytimes
― scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
I have no idea what any of you are talking about and that is fucking annoying.
― I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link
Ah tom isn't that what you always say tho!
― scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
Love Tom
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
I've caught up now and I feel sad for Mark, such a nice guy.
― I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
"I have no idea what any of you are talking about and that is fucking annoying."
Is there a keyboard shortcut for this?
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link
?
― scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link
(I thought at first you didn't get what I meant and was all set to explain myself and then, a sudden flash of awareness: that's the shortcut, stupid.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
✓
― scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
pink floyd rules
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
No self-respecting pub would still have you as a customer.
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
it’s too early for popcorn
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
Of all the threads to grow a clusterfuck
― Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link
she really really likes red pepper flakes
― sarahell, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:12 (three years ago) link
sorry the above is related to me just now discovering the world of Bari Weiss, which led me to Alison Roman, who I'd never heard of and ... I just can't keep up with all this
― sarahell, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link
Crikey.
― I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 February 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/8JQP4gmtZdSYtP6ToM/giphy.gif
― pomenitul, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
honestly a monster
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link
Imagine choosing this as your hill to die on.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
As much as I like being called an absurd fantasist for calling this person’s behaviour what it is while they continue to tell us all that we’re the problem, there is really no point in people clutching their pearls itt without using the tools available to them.
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
Oh believe me I am.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link
how come i can't buy more flags to use like you could buy gold to use in world of warcraft
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
I 100% support yr stance in that thread gyac re you know who
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
I'm sorry I started this whole thing ...
― sarahell, Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
I really don't like pile ons against posters but considering my role in starting this mess, I am just stepping back and not fighting this battle.
― sarahell, Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link
I'm sorry I had an incoherent meltdown in there, sarahell. I was trying to avoid it because it doesn't help anyone, but I just couldn't take it. Fwiw, I don't think anyone's mad at you now - I wasn't ever angry with you, just upset, and I get your explanation, it's cool.
But "my cruelty is feminist praxis" is the biggest load of bullshit and it needs to be called out. I am so tired and so miserable and it all feels so awful.
― emil.y, Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link
Christine and gyac and emil.y and harbl are 100% otm in that thread and anyone with a passing familiarity with these posters will know it is, like, breathtakingly disingenuous to pretend that what they are objecting to are statements criticising cisheteropatriarchy and not yknow the things they say they are objecting to, viz the specific shitty behaviour of a consistently horrible and toxic person xp otm again
― jammy mcnullity (wins), Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
Seconded Emily - Sarah, you apologised, and that’s all that needed to happen. That the person digging their heels in and arguing for their right to be cruel - and that some of us are abusive fantasists - is nothing to do with you.
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
Can we go back to the original discussion again? The original original one?
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link