NBA NUMB3RS 2020-21

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maybe but when there are multiple worthy options so much of the mvp race has to do with buzz and narratives, and Jokic and Embiid are winning big in that column right now

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link

kinda think its unlikely that embiid will continue to produce at current levels for the whole season, jokic on the other hand could even drop off some and still have a good case

lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

i'm hearing "the numbers" do not like jokic's defensive season at all.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

eh defense shmeefense

lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

yeah Embiid's conditioning will get him in the end. remains to be seen whether mvp voters care about Joker's D

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

you guys lebron is getting it if he plays a full season

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

no sort of guaranteed imo

lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

if anything the voters will be happy to give it to someone who hasnt won before should the opportunity arise

lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

also looking upthread i'm sad about Blake. Hopefully his career can end with a dunkfest a la Kobe's last game to remind us how awesome it was to watch him back in the day. Although maybe that would just be sadder

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link

the lebron narrative has been strong but seems to be dipping a bit of late. he had a better case for it last year i think.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

hes 13th in scoring, sorry lebron is canceled

lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

i think the fact that he didn't win last year and then they rolled everyone in the playoffs will cause a portion of the voting body to "correct" that. but his analytical case is really strong too.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

if the lakers finish with the best record in the west and he continues this level of play i think he will win it... it will prob be deserved

if the sixers finish first in the east i think embiid will have a shot

i’m not see i steph having much of a chance unless the warriors get a top 4 seed which doesn’t seem possible

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 February 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

otm

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

nash the last guy to win without being top 10 in scoring?

Clay, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

sounds right without searching re nash

Draymond Green has tallied 10+ AST in each of his last 5 games, all of which he started at center. The only other player to reach 10+ AST in 5 straight games in which they started at center is Nikola Jokic (since starters began being tracked in 1970-71). @EliasSports pic.twitter.com/RHjEAITHUR

— NBA.com/Stats (@nbastats) February 12, 2021

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

thats wild

lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

whole league is on a heater

If you're wondering whether 3PT shooting is up this season or not, last year's league leader in 3PT% was the Jazz at 38.0%
This year, the Clippers lead at 42.2% with NINE teams above 38%

— BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) February 13, 2021

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

empty gym effect.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

yeah need to see those numbers compared to just the bubble

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

The Utah Jazz lead the league in 3PT Frequency (48.3%) and are 2nd in 3PT accuracy (40.1%)

— BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) February 13, 2021

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

Wonder if that’s sustainable. They still don’t seem as good as their record.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 13 February 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

almost certainly not totally sustainable but they do just have good shooters on that team, like compared to last year bojan is healthy conely has regained form clarkson is getting big minutes and those guys are all shooters and then youve got mitchell and ingles who are shooters too, theyve got a nice shooting team and theyre clicking, and theyre a good defensive team so maybe theyre just good

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

in general i feel like every game i watch this year the only deciding factor is which team can hit 20-45 from three, it’s kinda wack

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

yeah i saw some chart on twitter demonstrating that hot 3 shooting had been unusually decisive this year despite teams not taking more than last year

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

Here are the players with the best 3P% on Catch and Shoot Threes:

1. Malik Monk (58.3%)
2. Seth Curry (56.8%)
3. Joe Harris (54.1%)
4. Jeremy Lamb (54.1%)
5. Payton Pritchard (52.5%)

Last year only 1 player (Rodney Hood) shot over 50% on catch and shoot threes.

— Up and Under Analytics (@UnU_analytics) February 13, 2021

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

lol how many ppl really wanna watch this kinda basketball

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

how many ppl really wanna watch this kinda basketball

Most teams still prefer to defend the basket area as their first priority, because layups and dunks are still the best shots. The difference between today and fifteen years ago is that shooters have become more efficient from beyond the three point line. iow, there are better players in the game now. Why would that bother anyone?

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Saturday, 13 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

i like shooting and particularly the stuff guys do to get shots now a la steph doing dribble moves once reserved for drives is really cool but the variance is a problem on a game to game basis, along with taking so many rest/minor injury days makes it seem like no individual game really matters, which tbf they dont

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

no i’m talking about what’s happening this season bcuz the arenas are empty

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

marginal players are shooting too well (as evidenced above) and it’s distorting the game

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

well if youre only worried abt that the fans will be back eventually

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

but whats happening this season is in line with larger trends

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

i do think they shd widen the court and move the line out, even just moving the corners to the normal distance might make a difference

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

my first post was an xp to aimless but yeah my concern is that every team is shooting too well and it’s coming from the middle and bottom of rotations. i don’t really wanna turn on a bucks game and see guys like dante divicenzo and brynn forbes making 50% of their threes

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

every passing year the nba meta moves further from what we mortals can achieve as basketball players. whether this bothers you of course varies

micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

i’m def in favor of them changing the court to make three point shooting more of a specialized skill again but we’ll see if things normalize once fans return

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

NBA basketball isn’t an ungovernable naturally occurring force... the league can do things to make the product a bit better to watch on a night to night basis (playoff basketball doesn’t really have this problem)

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

i think the fans will make a difference but also players are prob just getting better at shooting too

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

my three point plan:
1. widen the court and move the line out
2. play fewer games a year (58?)
3. dial back the officiating just a little so the play is at say 2013 levels of physicality
bonus point. have fewer playoff teams, first round is best of 5 the top two teams in each conf get a bye and its finished in a week

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

i’m def in favor of them changing the court to make three point shooting more of a specialized skill again but we’ll see if things normalize once fans return

― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 9:09 AM

moving the line out by two feet wont make it a specialised skill for more than a couple of seasons. if your problem is that nba players shoot too well its not going to go away. all rule changes can do is decrease volume

micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link

i am a big fan of reintroducing a bit of hand checking

micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link

Like what, in the first half, but not the second half?

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

my rule change: if u pump fake and your defender jumps to block, you cant draw a foul unless they make contact when your feet are set (aka cant jump into contact)

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

also let ppl play a lil defense, as a treat

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

theyre already not supposed to call it when the shooter jumps into the defender but they dont do a great job

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

my bugaboo now is when defenders go over screens and the ball handler jumps up flailing and gets a 3 point foul via proximity, dragic does this all the time

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

yeah that one is trending

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

they should have a new category of foul where you just get side out and it doesnt count against the bonus, just like fine heres the ball you happy

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

include rip throughs all sorts of stopping sort and jumping into defenders

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link


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