NBA NUMB3RS 2020-21

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i’m def in favor of them changing the court to make three point shooting more of a specialized skill again but we’ll see if things normalize once fans return

― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 9:09 AM

moving the line out by two feet wont make it a specialised skill for more than a couple of seasons. if your problem is that nba players shoot too well its not going to go away. all rule changes can do is decrease volume

micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link

i am a big fan of reintroducing a bit of hand checking

micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link

Like what, in the first half, but not the second half?

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

my rule change: if u pump fake and your defender jumps to block, you cant draw a foul unless they make contact when your feet are set (aka cant jump into contact)

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

also let ppl play a lil defense, as a treat

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

theyre already not supposed to call it when the shooter jumps into the defender but they dont do a great job

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

my bugaboo now is when defenders go over screens and the ball handler jumps up flailing and gets a 3 point foul via proximity, dragic does this all the time

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

yeah that one is trending

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

they should have a new category of foul where you just get side out and it doesnt count against the bonus, just like fine heres the ball you happy

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

include rip throughs all sorts of stopping sort and jumping into defenders

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

my bugaboo now is when defenders go over screens and the ball handler jumps up flailing and gets a 3 point foul via proximity, dragic does this all the time

― J0rdan S., Saturday, February 13, 2021 4:48 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ya this is booty

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

Yah it was great when they changed the rip through foul. No reason they can’t do something similar on the 3 point jump into and the over the screen play.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:28 (three years ago) link

Ref baiting is my least fav part of the game. I’m cool with a ton of threes if the game is sound drive n kick + crazy Steph n Harden sidesteps and backsteps. But once the playoffs start it all changes anyway cos teams actually try and take it away more.

There have been a few too many games this year where it’s like ok we clearly can’t match up with this team and we only have half our roster so the only shot we have is to run and hoist and pray for variance in our favor. Makes for some very ugly hoop for sure.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

The magic are down to vooch and like 7 two-way level players

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

magic season is lost. they shd make trades and get hella draft picks.

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

yes it is sad but they have no choice but to trade aaron gordon to the celtics for a 1st and a 2nd

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link

it's true

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link

its settled then

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 00:54 (three years ago) link

I think the league has considered awarding only 2 free throws for being fouled on a 3 point attempt which they absolutely should do, widening the court also a good idea imo

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

yeah def support only two shots for all fouls

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link

one shot for two points imo

call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link

what abt for and-1s are u suggesting they be and-2s

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link

and ones you get as many shots as you want just whatever feel right to you

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

no and ones are still and ones, sorry for being unclear

call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

You should get to shoot the free shot for the full amount from where the foul occurred.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Sunday, 14 February 2021 05:59 (three years ago) link

that’s a sweet idea imo

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:12 (three years ago) link

like a free kick in soccer, thats actually amazing. big dudes getting hacked down low would be able to basically get a freebie. im in favor.

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

like oh, you would have really made that shot, then? let’s see it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 February 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

honestly, it would restore some value to big men. if they can draw fouls up close, they'd be less of a FT liability

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link

u cd still use the traditional FT line for off-ball fouls in the bonus, too.

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

so we doing this or...?

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

I think making 3 point fouls only worth 2 points is actually essential to discouraging ref baiting on those shots, I forget where maybe it was the athletic that pointed out recently how insanely valuable it is to get fouled like that, like much higher expected points than a dunk attempt. it's just silly

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

yeah 3s and 2s have roughly the same expected value

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

how do you stop teams from full on tackling every opposing player taking a buzzer beating 3 to tie tho

Clay, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link

yeah good pt, you could make the rule change not apply for the last minute or two, feel like that article brought that up too.

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

also teams can always foul before the shot if they want

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

fouling on the shot is much worse cause they still might make it

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

tbh they could just change the interpretation of what it means to be in the act of shooting... like you actually have to be shooting (or landing)

J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

i think theyve already done a pretty good job of that

micah, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

Draymond with 6/8/16. Steph with 36 on 13-19. Both in 30 minutes.

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 05:38 (three years ago) link

Steph Curry is the first guard since Michael Jordan in 1995-96 with at least 25 points and 50% FG in ten straight games 👨‍🍳 pic.twitter.com/fhQuJkiUYQ

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 16, 2021

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 06:54 (three years ago) link

Julius Randle is averaging:

*more points than Anthony Davis or Karl-Anthony Towns

*more rebounds than Joel Embiid or
Bam Adebayo

*more assists than Jrue Holiday or Donovan Mitchell

And Randle is shooting a higher percentage from 3-point range than Dame Lillard and Buddy Hield

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) February 16, 2021

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

damn wow

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

yeah i did not see "actually julius randle is one of the top pf's in the league" coming

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

dunno if he reworked his shot or something... but a leap from four of his first five seasons being in the 20%s from three to a 40% shooter on 4.5 attempts per game doesnt seem sustainable. basically doubling his assist numbers too. wild stuff. and the knicks are winning games and should/might make the playoffs.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

could just be on a heater but its cool to see.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

the whole offense runs through him, which feels like it should be a bad idea, but he's taken leaps with his court vision, and yes, his shooting. his effectiveness will probably dip once his shooting comes back to earth, but his inside game and his passing should still play.

the knicks are making a push for his inclusion in the all-star game, and it's hard to say he isn't deserving.

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link

thibs effect!

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

i'm not a julius randle scholar but i thought he was in noticeably better shape coming into the year. i'm casting doubt on pretty much any player whose shooting is "randomly" spiking up this year tho

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

it's strange, because it felt like randle was trying to assume this kind of role last season, but now he's succeeding. he somehow averaged about 3 apg last year on 27% usage which is pretty terrible. his usage and turnovers are nearly identical this year, but he's upped his ast% about 10 points and his 3p% by 13 points and that recipe turns an overused ball-hog into a offensive focal point and all-star.

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link


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