Pauline Kael, RIP.

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here's something that artforum published when she died - lol @ gary indiana

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-84182767.html

gershy, Monday, 14 January 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never understood that idea of liking Kael for her writing style but finding her opinions inscrutable.

yeah her opinions aren't hard to understand -- i think she makes good, clear cases for stuff she loves or hates. which is obviously different from agreeing with her, but she's not inscrutable.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 14 January 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, her detractors are usually taken aback by those royal "we's" and "you's" and other bludgeoning tactics of her early style that they forget how serenely clear the "middle period" (1970-1980) was, and how willing she was to be persuaded by the particular kind of hackery coming from Hollywood in the eighties. Isn't this what we want from critics? I can't understand how they must attach so many qualifiers ("great writer even though I don't agree", yawn).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 January 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link

*are usually SO taken aback

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 January 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link

the comments re: welles upthread are missing the point. of course welles was responsible (mostly) for not getting to make another film after "f for fake." but kael's "raising kane" is a big old pudding of lazy criticism and outright calumnies. yes, it's got some great insights, but that doesn't excuse the sloppiness of the piece.

J.D., Monday, 14 January 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

We acknowledged as such.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 January 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link

*much. I really can't type tonight.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 January 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link

anybody ever read renata adler's legendary takedown in the ny review of books - "perils of pauline"??

gershy, Monday, 14 January 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Yup. Adler's flummoxed by Kael's slang.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

haha yes! it's a fantastic piece of writing and analysis, listing in excruciating and hilarious detail every last weird thing about kael's writing. even fans (and i'm a bit one, despite my criticism of "raising kane") should check it out.

J.D., Monday, 14 January 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

uh, i'm a BIG one, that is. not "a bit of one."

J.D., Monday, 14 January 2008 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Atkinson using the word "feckless" correctly?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 14 January 2008 03:18 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

At what, the feckless boxer?

Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 October 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

Stumped.

clemenza, Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link


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