outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

i kinda wanna know if I need to get this again since I got mine so long ago and they don't know how long the protection lasts. they expect that it probably lasts beyond '3 months' for younger people, but no long term data yet (that's why they take blood each visit). AND....if that's even allowable per the terms of my study.

i suspect they'll get around to addressing that with us eventually

xxp

yep, yep and yep - well said caek.

CDC fucking up as per

BREAKING: CDC Director says that they are STILL not releasing guidance on what vaccinated people can do.

I understand being careful, but the longer they wait, the more people will take matters into their own hands & render eventual CDC advice irrelevant. https://t.co/35hBGojV5y

— Leana Wen, M.D. (@DrLeanaWen) March 5, 2021

not wearing a mask in public in the middle of a pandemic (cases are higher now than they were in the summer wave!) is a great way to say "i'm a dangerous asshole" to strangers, whether or not you've been vaccinated.

this 100%

Yep

Oh absolutely agreed, 100%. But I think it's safe to say that, unfortunately, there is a not insignificant percentage of Americans that might not "otm" this and I think those folks will have a short term memory wrt to masks in a few years' time. But let's worry about that when we get there.

Let's just say that most 65-y-olds -- the cohort getting vaccinated -- are not the ones packing Applebee's bars.

it's the people who like Smash Mouth and say things like "lit"

Let's just say that most 65-y-olds -- the cohort getting vaccinated -- are not the ones packing Applebee's bars.

I'm guessing maybe you haven't spent much time in Applebee's in the Midwest.

every time I see someone at the Piggly Wiggly without a mask I just automatically assume they're a chud asshole and avoid getting near them so yeah I'll be wearing a mask in public till the end of the year most likely

I'm guessing maybe you haven't spent much time in Applebee's in the Midwest.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0)

I plan to as soon as I get vaccinated.

lol if you are in the area post vaccine, I would even be willing to visit an Applebee's to share a drink.

More just a commentary that in all the times I've been to a Applebee's or Chili's, 65 seems to be about the average age.

my "wear a mask even if you've been vaccinated" was in response to

seems pretty reasonable to take off your mask once fully vaxed tbh

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, March 5, 2021 2:30 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm really hoping people get in the habit of wearing masks if they've got a cold or whatever but I can't see it happening.

Agree that I'm gonna have to have quite a big mental readjustment in a few months. I have no idea if/when I'll go back to indoor gym classes. But I don't have to decide now.

I'm not unmasking until the number of new cases is so low that the local news stops covering it.

Idk I just got a delivery of KN95s from a caek-recommended seller and they're so comfortable I might wear them forever.

My now-hopeless desire was for masking to be normalized and stick around forever because I hate colds and the flu.

Yes. No colds since 2019 and I like it.

the extreme drop off in the flu is pretty neat...cool to see direct evidence that masks & social distancing does in fact work extremely well

the KN95s are indeed dope, I get less of them for my money than I did surgical masks, but they offer better protection.

and as cool as my Iron Maiden mask is, it's not layered

horns up, mfer!

we should paint each individual mask we wear with our own designs and create a thread of custom ILX mask artwork

San Francisco update: a quarter of the eligible city population has received at least a first dose, two-thirds of the 65-and-over population have received a first dose. Second dose levels now into double-digits in general, almost a third of 65-and-over have a second dose. My sis got her first shot the other day; my folks have received their second shots. All good to see.

I think I'll just get a face tattoo that looks like a mask

congrats to your fam Ned. It's a great relief i'm sure.

Which part of SF are your folks in Ned?

Here's my more realistic San Francisco update:

https://i.imgur.com/izp4SIL.png

The death rate is pretty stagnant (~80% of peak COVID deaths) all things considered... which I know some of you guys have been promising it will go down for a month yet here we are.

Just walking around and seeing a surge of maskless people eating indoors makes me think this trend line ain't going down any time soon. Hope that arugula pizza was worth killing someone's grandmother over.

Also none of the teachers at my kids schools have received their codes to make them eligible for vaccines yet, our only partially-vaccinated friend is dancing tonight at the Crazy Horse strip club (which is now open).

Yikes! Hopefully it's just the peep show booths!?
My partner is a teacher and was able to get her first shot at Walgreens last week. She just had to show her faculty ID. Hopefully things move quickly for your kids teachers.

From a nextdoor email notification I got last week. Welcome to the neighborhood, lady!

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Lol, sorry, meant for SF thread

Ppl moving in and finding out they don’t like the neighbors can keep it to themselves tbh

Just gonna respond to that here #onethread

Stepping back a bit -- sorry, should have added that my folks live in Carmel, so they were working with the Monterey County setup. My sis is in SF, though (recently moved from Inner Sunset to near Glen Canyon Park).

anyone here knowledgeable about lateral flow test false positive rate? almost everything says it's very very low except for one bmj article which cites a study which tested 43,000 Scottish students and found an estimated rate of 58%! however the original study is no longer found at the link. What gives? fyi this is to (not) solve a family argument. https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4941
https://beta.isdscotland.org/media/6975/20-12-16-covid19-publication_report.pdf

my son is about to start biweekly lateral flow tests next week at his school

my son went back last Monday and we've already got a letter informing us one of the teachers tested positive and all students who were in contact are self-isolating.

well as parents we've been told we "can" (not should or must) get bi weekly tests, but my sister in law and family say they'll stop bubbling with us as they can't afford to self isolate if we test positive.

xp

Let's just say that most 65-y-olds -- the cohort getting vaccinated -- are not the ones packing Applebee's bars.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-more-than-40-of-over-80s-have-broken-lockdown-rules-since-getting-vaccinated-ons-says-12235713

I can drink an an Applebee's in Bristol?

I still think false negatives are more concerning in terms of affecting behaviour, but the focus has shifted onto the consequences of false positives -but these are still going to be a very small percent of a small number re the LFTs. I don't think we really know what either the false pos/neg rates are (and won't, as they are stopping confirming positives with PCRs).

We've also been given the option to test twice weekly (as parents).
Calz, that's shit for you! Is your kid testing too? How is he with it?

not wearing a mask in public in the middle of a pandemic (cases are higher now than they were in the summer wave!) is a great way to say "i'm a dangerous asshole to strangers, whether or not you've been vaccinated.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, March 5, 2021 3:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

OTMFM.

xp

They've managed to test him once so far and said he was very co-operative and there were no problems, he's got used to annual flu injections and is lot more chill about staying still a minute for a swab or whatever they do - it would have a different story 5 years ago! The teacher who tested positive was from a different bubble so he's fine for now.

he's very lucky that he has the luxury of small class sizes and the bubbling/testing regime is probably much easier to maintain than out in the big schools. I feel more sorry for people with kids going back into big classrooms and the no doubt very difficult attempts to maintain covid-safe conditions in near chaos!

Glad he's ok with it. We're lucky to have a smallish school and no cases so far but I'm still Staying Alert!

Found out today that my landlord caught COVID on February 1 and died of it on March 1. Spare me ILX's ritualistic dekulakization bullshit; he was a good guy and I'll miss him. He owned my building in partnership with his sister, so according to his son nothing will change as far as rent, selling the building, etc.

Sorry to hear that, unperson. RIP.

How awful, I'm so sorry.

I'm mostly worried because a lot of the stupid fucks that live in the building walk around maskless, bring friends over on the weekends, etc. He always wore a mask when he was in my apartment, but who knows if one of my neighbors gave it to him?

I think it's still true that masks protect others more than they protect you, especially now that the more virulent new variants are taking over, so it's not impossible, provided he actually spent a non-negligible amount of time in the presence of these jerkoffs.