music videos with a radically different mix/version of the song than the album version

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Bi6UBcRqU

xzanfar, Friday, 12 March 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unMl7h715sY

xzanfar, Friday, 12 March 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

the first time i remember this phenomenon happening (and subsequently blowing my mind) was the first time i saw the video for da brat's "give it 2 you" on bet. solid groove. and way better than the album version.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 12 March 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

i think these stand out to me cause the music industry in the 80s/90s seemed like this very slick, smooth, professionalized product pipeline, and then to have the video promoting a version of the song that was not the one they are actually hoping you'll buy seems so odd and clunky, total mismatch and fuckup by some intern somewhere derailing this gigantic and ostensibly seamless marketing campaign

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 March 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link

sic, thanks for that! unortunately I can’t watch that video bc it’s region locked - does it match the album version? I used to prefer the 86 version because that’s the one I heard first, but the saxless one certainly sounds better now. :)

Kim, Friday, 12 March 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link

d'oh! / I think so but am no expert

to have the video promoting a version of the song that was not the one they are actually hoping you'll buy seems so odd and clunky, total mismatch and fuckup by some intern somewhere derailing this gigantic and ostensibly seamless marketing campaign

but 97% of these are in fact the single version!

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 12 March 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link

I was thinking about Pet Shop Boys in this context but, yeah, I think seemingly peculiar mixes in their videos overwhelmingly corresponded to what was on a contemporaneous single.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 12 March 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link

@ sic: they were not hoping i would buy the single version! the singles were barely available if at all!

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 March 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link

like their whole mentality was hoping dumb teens would spend $19 on an album at sam goody (or les elsewhere obviously) rather than $6 on a CD single

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 March 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

yeah US single sales were minuscule compared to other countries

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 12 March 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

I brought that up first, but the rest of the world still existed and bought English-language pop music

armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link

I think Peter Gabriel may have a few of these

Video for I Have the Touch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPTyNDqOzpM
Album version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydiW-QnTUpY

Kim, Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

Sorry I guess that’s not a proper video. Agh, I was sure he did this sometime though

Kim, Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

@ sic - fair! i guess i just think, myopically, of mtv and mtv culture as being us-centric.

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:40 (three years ago) link

like you'd think they would have just had US vs "international" versions of the videos, or slapped the single mix on at the end of the US edition of the album as a bonus track, or ... something

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:40 (three years ago) link

Gloria Estefan - “Live for Loving You” (seeing that video totally blew my ten-year-old mind. and it was on vh1 all the damn time.)

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link

clearly i need to spatially expand my horizons
or end up in a class with scrubs - never risin'

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link

Probably this was the PG one I was thinking of
I Don’t Remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k_ZRyws8Uc

Kim, Saturday, 13 March 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

Yeah, i've never heard that version of the song (never seen that video either). Almost sounds like a demo.
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enochroot, Saturday, 13 March 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

The original single/video version of ‘First Day’ by the Futureheads is much better than the one on their debut album, which has a much busier performance/mix.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 13 March 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

Another version of this is when sound effects and dialogue are added to the video. 95% of the time this is annoying but 5% of the time the actual song sounds like it's missing something vital when you finally hear it by itself. First example I can think of - This Is America

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 March 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link

My favorite example of that is from Jump by Van Halen

pplains, Sunday, 14 March 2021 03:23 (three years ago) link

yeah that brings up the obvious opposite example, "Black or White" by Michael Jackson which for some reason includes the entire dialogue from the first minute of the video, totally breaking up the flow of the album

frogbs, Sunday, 14 March 2021 03:35 (three years ago) link

"eat this!"

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 March 2021 04:10 (three years ago) link

tbf I always kinda loved the instrumental that plays under that part, kinda want to hear it in full

frogbs, Sunday, 14 March 2021 04:15 (three years ago) link

I think it’s funny how “Oops... I Did It Again” (the track) includes that corny Titanic-themed dialogue from the video.

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Sunday, 14 March 2021 04:21 (three years ago) link

that INFURIATED me at the time and does not seem any less dumb now

armoured van, Holden (sic), Sunday, 14 March 2021 07:04 (three years ago) link

"Steal My Sunshine" seems like a reversal of the norm; it has dialogue in the album track but not in the music video.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 14 March 2021 07:09 (three years ago) link

oh good call --- if you'd asked me i would have guessed the reverse! ugh. "KAREN.... I LOVE YOU!!!!"

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 14 March 2021 12:01 (three years ago) link

Here's Neon Neon doing the Hype/Missy trick

armoured van, Holden (sic), Sunday, 14 March 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMenxKvBGe4

I've been on a pre-Chronic rap kick lately. The video version of Big Daddy Kane's "Taste of Chocolate" has a great extra rap ("Big Daddy Kane's the one and only. You wanna say it three times, like Tony Toni Tone") that's missing from the album version. Big Daddy then split the album version up into two parts and put one at the beginning of the album and one at the end, just to piss off his fans even more.

Really, the music industry should've been sued for pulling this shit.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

aren't looooads of Madonna's videos for single versions? is Express Yrself an especially unusual one?

"Express Yourself" was actually released in two different versions (same picture, different music). One's probably better known than the other, but here's what was posted elsewhere:

First I'll start with the US promo CD. It has four tracks on it:

1. (7" Remix) 4:30
2. (Remix/Edit) 4:50
3. (Non-Stop Express Mix) 7:54
4. (Local Mix) 6:20

(7" Remix) is the version that was released on 7" vinyl and cassette single in the US. It sounds similar to the Like A Prayer album version, but was remixed by Shep Pettibone and includes more overdubs of synths, horns and string sections.

(Remix/Edit) is Shep Pettibone's dance remix of the song which is a totally reworked house version (some of the same synth & string parts that were added to his (7" Remix) are also included in this mix.

(Non-Stop Express Mix) is Shep Pettibone's extended dance version of his (Remix/Edit).

and (Local Mix) is Shep's extended remix version of his (7" Remix).

A dub version of his dance remix version was also released on the "Express Yourself" 12" single, (Stop & Go Dubs) 10:50, but it wasn't included on the promo CD.

For the video, there were two mixes released. Version 1 [probably the more famous one] uses (Remix/Edit) as the soundtrack, but the intro is replaced with the intro from the (Local Mix) but with additional echo added to the line "do you believe love." Version 2 uses (7" Remix) as the soundtrack, and the intro is also replaced with the intro from the (Local Mix), but this time they left the audio as it appears on the (Local Mix), without additional echo on the line "do you believe in love," and since the (7" Remix) is shorter and fades out, the second video ends earlier with the soundtrack cutting to the ending from the (Local Mix) of the song.

Version 1 was officially released on the Celebration DVD and Version 2 was officially released on The Immaculate Collection VHS and DVD.

Another version was released on the Celebration compilation CD but this 4:00 version is basically an attempt to recreate the 1990 Immaculate Collection length edit using the (Local Mix) intro and the (Remix/Edit). It's missing the additional echo on "do you believe in love" so it does not include the same audio as the Version 1 video. (which means you can only get that intro on the Celebration DVD).

And I called it an "attempt" to recreate The Immaculate Collection edit because after the 3rd chorus they end up cutting further than they should to the wrong part of the song (they cut to the second time she sings "and when you're gone he might regret it," instead of the first time she sings it) and then they give up editing the rest of the song cuz it ends up being 4:00 after their strange edit. (She doesn't stop singing in this version of the song! The 1990 version has an instrumental break in the middle and a two more edits after that.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Peter Gabriel's 'Kiss That Frog'. In the UK at least, the single version was an edit of the album version, but the video is the 'Midnblender' mix, the thing to promote his 3D simulator ride thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Y7SeZSq70
^ this version appears to remove the frog noises

PaulTMA, Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

Not radically different, but quite a few videos have been made with a live vocal, particularly from singers who don't like miming to a track. I think Springsteen's done this at least twice - "Brilliant Disguise" and "Streets of Philadelphia."

birdistheword, Thursday, 19 May 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

high-quality content, birdis!

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

thanks sic!

birdistheword, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link


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