What is your take on continuity of self?

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System, Monday, 15 March 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

I’m hardly the same person who voted in this poll.

epistantophus, Monday, 15 March 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link

This helps me to believe in the continuity of self:

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2d/76/c9/2d76c958bbda9baeae73a642adb49e75.jpg

Alba, Monday, 15 March 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link

Depressing if true

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 15 March 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

I had a severe tbi 5 years ago. A very good friend asked me at about 3 months post-injury, just after my release from in-patient-dom, “do you notice differences in your personality or behavior?” My response then was “i am definitely the same, just worse.” By which I meant that my previous defects or weaknesses—in say, executive function, or in navigating between tasks, or in managing conflicting instructions— were now hugely magnified. (Later, and over time, I would learn that I was now um, very dysfunctional in certain roles). Anyhow, my response backinaday was not a bad take for where I was, then.

Buuut there was a universe of other differences that I could NOT really perceive. It took a long time to persuade me, but the recovering TBI patient can have an extraordinary lack of insight. For all the difference that I could notice, there was so so much more that I could not see. And that I STILL cannot see. Because I still feel like, just “me.”

There are many tasks for which you can say “ah, I used to be able to do x, now I cannot,” and that inability to do is plain to you, as a patient and person.

However, it took much more time to make me BELIEVE that “in the past I would have felt like y and acted like z, while now I would feel and act differently.” Gaining even that level of insight years, and a lot if heartbreak. Having your partner say “you are not the person I knew,” that is hard. And it’s not either persons fault. And it is not to be cured. Your “self” changed in ways you don’t perceive. But everyone else does.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 March 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link

oh there is no self only behaviour, surely every fule knoes that?
& since there can be no self I can't complete this.
For there is no I

Stevolende, Monday, 15 March 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

Loved your post, Hunt3r.

Alba, Monday, 15 March 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

That reminds me of the plot of the film The Mind Benders (1963) starring Dirk Bogarde in which he goes into an isolation tank and then gets mentally reprogrammed while his brain is soft and then his wife knows he's a different person but he fights her over it.

Josefa, Monday, 15 March 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

Never heard of it but def will search out if i can!

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

Great post hunt3r

Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

TY all. Been reupping my 90s zen sitting and thinking, I find its been more effective than a lot of other things at settling myself.🤷🏻‍♂️

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

Yes, great post Hunt3r.

Dirk Bogarde was a great actor and animal advocate, on top of being really dreamy.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link


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