Oscars 2021

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As with Promising Young Woman, I'm waiting for the streaming cost to come down (though maybe I'll splurge if it's going to be a while).

wait till it's free with a service you already subscribe to imho

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link

Ideally, yes, but if it's on Amazon for $3.99, I'll watch it.

jaymc, Monday, 15 March 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry a what now

Oscars: Diverse Field Sees Asian Actors Shatter a Bamboo Ceiling https://t.co/gXPGDxEOQ4

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) March 15, 2021

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link

I get this but also depictions of the radical left are usually completely botched so I'll take it

― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.),

See: Sorkin, Aaron.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link

yuuuuup

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 15 March 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link

I'd never heard the phrase before, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_ceiling

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 March 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

well that's me told! fwiw it seems like the term was new to many others as well (going by twitter replies)

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 15 March 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link

who do these ppl think is the lead of Judas And The Black Messiah

armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

That's what I was wondering, unless it was a calculated decision to court those specific noms? Idgi.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

^^ it was.

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

I didn't even notice that those two were relegated to supporting actor nominations! I mean, seriously, at the very least *one* of them is a lead actor, but really both. Plemons fits the "supporting" title in that movie to a T.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

boseman is almost certainly gonna win best actor, and they were looking to avoid that buzzsaw.

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

if anything, they're co-leads, not co-supporting, but category fraud happens.

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

Academy Award-nominated film Borat Subsequent Moviefilm

― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, March 15, 2021 9:22 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

THE GODFATHER was the first movie franchise to have its first and second films both nominated for Best Screenplay. the second movie franchise? BORAT.

— Russell (@RussellHFilm) March 15, 2021

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link

ha!

Lakeith is obviously the lead. Kaluuya would be fine to class as co-lead or supporting.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

boseman is almost certainly gonna win best actor, and they were looking to avoid that buzzsaw.

I can see that argument, but doesn't putting them both in the same category risk vote splitting that might harm both? But maybe this is why I'm not a highly compensated studio exec.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

i'd say that they're the favorites in the supporting actor category, but raci could solidify support and win if there's vote-splitting.

i personally think stanfield was fine, but he's been much better in other things. kaluuya was a force of nature.

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

borat, ma rainey, and judas are the only movies nommed in the big 6 that i've seen

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

I know they really want to give Boseman the best actor Oscar, and I'm OK with that but tbh his role could just as easily have been classified as supporting.

he's the main driver of the plot and the emotion, i'd say he's definitely a lead. also learned recently that his role was originally played on stage by charles s. dutton

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

*idk why i wrote emotion when i meant "conflict" but whatever

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

I guess Stanfield was *submitted* by the studio as a lead, but the academy voted to nominate him as supporting?

So who makes these calls? The voting members of the acting branch, whose votes determine the nominees, regardless of studio campaigns or critics’ awards.

According to academy rules, “A performance by an actor or actress in any role shall be eligible for nomination either for the leading role or supporting role categories ... The determination as to whether a role is a leading or supporting role shall be made individually by members of the branch at the time of balloting.”

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

Correct.

Just to be clear, WB did not campaign #JudasAndTheBlackMessiah as a leadless movie. Voters who believed that Stanfield was supporting were simply plentiful enough for him to make the category. #Oscars pic.twitter.com/zOKFyQkPqd

— Myles McNutt (@Memles) March 15, 2021

jaymc, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

good to know. would've been a bummer for stanfield to miss out due to people voting for him in different categories.

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

Lakeith is obviously the lead. Kaluuya would be fine to class as co-lead or supporting.

― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, March 15, 2021 1:58 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Also correct. I saw a breakdown of screen time, and Stanfield has just slightly more (like 49 minutes vs. 46 minutes), but he's also the audience surrogate, which makes him more of a lead.

jaymc, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

LaKeith Stanfield has shared his reaction to being Oscar-nominated in Best Supporting Actor for JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH pic.twitter.com/9TQFx17gkW

— Isaac Feldberg (@isaacfeldberg) March 16, 2021

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link

Love that guy

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/apr/22/the-most-awkward-oscars-moments-ranked

I've no recollection of this

"Possibly the least showy moment on this list, but easily the most excruciating. The Vice hair and makeup team didn’t seem to know each other when they arrived onstage to collect their award. One of them started a speech, then stopped as his colleague unfurled her own speech. She ordered him to read it. He refused. She started reading it. A third winner, holding her own speech, haltingly joined in. They started to get played off, but ploughed on nonetheless. As they collectively fumbled to decode some handwriting on one of the now several speeches, the camera cut away. They kept going. The stage lights switched off."

piscesx, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

Without looking at the list, curious if they included the Hearts and Minds acceptance speech in '75 or whenever. Will check the link.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

They didn’t, too niche i expect.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

They don't have Benigni climbing over people or the lady from Once getting cut off either.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link

Oh, and "Uma...Oprah"!

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link

There's nothing embarrassing about that Jack Palance acceptance, it's great

ignore the blue line (or something), Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link

They didn’t, too niche i expect.

Faulty memory. I looked at the clip, and not nearly as incendiary as my 45-year-old memory of it. I thought there was loud booing, like with Michael Moore. Not at all; the crowd sounds quite on their side. I think, later, there may have been someone speak disparagingly from the stage about Schneider--Bob Hope or John Wayne?--but I'm not sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMR1mVGbfUk

clemenza, Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link

legit stream

https://ustvgo.tv/abc-live-streaming-free/

piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link

Canned laughter?? taking a cue from the Brits there.

Isn't best supporting actor usually first?

piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

this was always going to be awkward and boring but they've really outdone themselves!

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link

That 'talking to the nominees from the stage' thing sucked ten years ago, God knows who thought they should revive it.

piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

Those introductions from Laura Dern to the supporting actors! Is that what you are referring to? Every acceptance speech other than Zhao's has been ridiculously long too.

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link

Sorry, I'm only half watching but thanks for the link-up, piscesx.

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

I liked that they presented the best director award so close to the beginning, Chloe Zhao totally deserved it and she gave an admirably short acceptance speech

Dan S, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

i started this half and hour or so late so i could ffwd through commercials and endless sanctimony and boring shit i'm already out of buffer

Clay, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link

lol

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link

Reece never ages, it's incredible.

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link

Denzel Washington and Laura Dern don't either.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link

Laura looked gorgeous. Have we had best supporting actress?

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link

i don't think so

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

Woah that Octopus film looks great. That's a sentence i never thought i'd write.

xp No Supporting Actress yet.

piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

If Glenn Close doesn't win she makes history as the most nominated actor *ever* to not win.

piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link

Kind of feel like everyone should be holding onto those digital antennae for another couple years at least.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

Who has cable in 2021?

Looked this up: 120.6 million households (out of 128.45 total), 65% of individuals in the USA (69% have a subscription to at least one streaming service).

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

Yeah, we need to go buy one of those. We cut the cable cord last year, but only learned just last night that not even Sling gets us ABC, so we didn't end up watching it at all.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

I haven't really watched much of the show for years--maybe three minutes last night--but I guess I'm still somewhat interested in the results. I talked about the winners with a remote grade 5/6 class today and showed them a trailer for Nomadland. I really want to see the film--lots of beautiful shots in the trailer. Maybe picturesque colour photography is easy, but so is giving the cinematography award to Mank because it's in B&W--I don't recall taking any particular notice of the cinematography in that film.

clemenza, Monday, 26 April 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link

thought the cinematography in Nomadland was really beautiful

Dan S, Monday, 26 April 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

also really liked the cinematography in Mank, but it was very, very dark. remember thinking I would probably most appreciate it in a dark theater on a big screen

Dan S, Monday, 26 April 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

as far as black and white goes, I didn't think the cinematography in Mank was as mesmerizing as that of Roma or Cold War from 2018

Dan S, Monday, 26 April 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link

i saw mank in theaters and thought it was INCREDIBLY dark and hard to watch!

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 03:11 (three years ago) link

The cinematography in Mank also felt kind of eerily airbrushed and smoothed over. It was not like anything I remember seeing before

Dan S, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile, this one continues her descent down the J3ffr3y W3lls slide of anti-wokeness...

I muted her on Twitter years ago because of her political ramblings, which seemed a little unhinged. But she's always had a big chip on her shoulder about something or other.

jaymc, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 03:30 (three years ago) link

i was off ilxor all day today but just wanted to say this is super sharp and accurate analysis of what i posted. you've really acquitted yourself well here and in subsequent posts, bobo.

as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag. missed the jokes, song performances and *especially* the movie clips badly.

I do NOT watch movies and have no interest in them. I am INFURIATED that I have not seen ten 19-second excerpts of some movies from last year, and have no way of doing so.

way too much talking. terribly solemn and boring.

It absolutely sucks that this year's ceremony did not involve ramming thousands of people shoulder-to-shoulder, having strangers hug each other, and making people sing directly into each other's faces. I have not watched and TV or read any news since last year's Oscars.

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, April 25, 2021 11:33 PM (yesterday)

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 05:45 (three years ago) link

j/k, actually you are a total disaster and should log the fuck off and come back when you learn to read

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 05:45 (three years ago) link

to eephus!: i watch the Oscars (often out of one eye while working on a laptop) because they're a big event, you get to see celebrities making jokes and wearing pretty dresses, and it allows me to catch up just the right amount on a year's worth of movies i didn't see. if i laugh a few times and come away with a movie or two i think i'd like to see, then i consider it a success.

that show last night was honestly one of the worst couple of hours of TV i've seen in a long time. i do understand it's a tricky situation with regard to holding large events and the fact that people couldn't see movies in theaters for the past year.

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 05:56 (three years ago) link

this was enjoyable

The camera director direct Cuba Gooding Jr.'s acceptance speech at the Oscars 1997 is amazing. pic.twitter.com/zsuLPjA6zM

— chu (@chuuzus) April 25, 2021

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

SPEECH BY: DANIEL KALUUYA

FILM: "Judas and the Black Messiah"

Man, man. Thank you God. Thank you God. I can’t be here without your guidance and you’re your protection. I’d like to thank my mum. Thank you so much for pouring into me. You gave me everything. You gave me your factory settings. [laughter] So I can stand at my fullest height. Um, love to my sister, love to my niece, my friends, my family, everyone I love, from London Town to Kampala. I’d like to thank my team, incredible support. Bro, we out here, yo. Man. Man. It's good, come and dance. Ryan, Zinzi, Sev, Proximity, everyone at Proximity. Charles King, man, Everyone at MACRO, Bron, Participant. Nigel. Everyone at Warner Brothers. Thank you so much for everything you poured into this. Everything you poured into this. It’s so hard to make a film and make a film about a man like this, and they made it possible, they made it happen. I share this honor with the gift that is Lakeith Stanfield. The light that is [applause], yeah yeah, the light that is Dominique Fishback. [applause] The incredible cast, the incredible crew –you know what I mean -- Lucas Brothers for starting the journey. Will Berson. See, you know it's so incredible to look around you, to look around you and just go . . . you’re inspired by not only what they do but who they are. So that's amazing. Chairman Fred Junior and Mama Akua, thank you so much for allowing us into your life and into your story. Thank you, thank you for trusting us, you know, with your truth. I appreciate you deeply and it's an honor to partner up and stand side by side with you. And to Chairman Fred Hampton. Bro, man. Man, what a man. What a man. How blessed we are that we lived in a lifetime where he existed, do you know what I’m saying? I like thank you for your light. He was on this earth for 21 years, 21 years, and he found a way to feed kids, breakfast, educate kids, give free medical care, against all the odds. He showed, he showed me, he taught me him. Him, Huey P. Newton, Bobby Seale, the Black Panther Party. They showed me how to love myself. And with that love, they overflowed into the black community and into other communities. And they showed us that the power of union, the power of unity, that when they play divide and conquer, we say unite and ascend. Thank you so much for showing me myself. And yeah, man, there's so much work to do guys, and that's on everyone in this room, this ain’t no single man job. I look at this room, and I look at everyone, every single one of you, you got work to do, you know what I’m saying. And I'm going to get back to work, Tuesday morning, because tonight I'm going up. [laughter] We’re going up, you know what I mean, we’re enjoying ourselves tonight because, what, we got to celebrate, celebrate life man, we're breathing, we’re walking. It's incredible it's incredible. Like it's incredible, my mum, my dad. They had sex. It's amazing. Like do you know what I’m saying, I'm here. You know what I mean? [laughter] So I'm so happy to be alive, so I’m going to celebrate that tonight, do you know what I’m saying? And I appreciate every single person in the room, appreciate everyone watching at home, you know, love, peace, love and onwards, we go again. Appreciate you. [applause]

johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link


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